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I've have Optican, known to date as the worlds best OBD programming flash tool. I'm happy to give quotes, and all maps come from the online database of known and tested configs. For MBclub uk members, i'll happily do these upgrades for around £220.00

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What can you increase my A160CDI to in terms of BHP/Torque? Do I have to come to you?

How many of these upgrades have you done? Any testimonials?
 
I've have Optican, known to date as the worlds best OBD programming flash tool. I'm happy to give quotes, and all maps come from the online database of known and tested configs. For MBclub uk members, i'll happily do these upgrades for around £220.00

[email protected]

The clock was ticking in my head.
 
lol, well you've been a help to me today.

Mark

Mercedes A160 CDI 75
Stock

Remapped
Power (hp)
75 hp
101 hp
Torque (Nm)
160 Nm
210 Nm

Mines the 82 bhp model?

BTW your web page doesnt work!
 
Site is being updated. We have done alot of optican remaps, and i've 'never' had a problem with them! I used to do mobile work around lincolnshire and london, but now we have a nice unit in Cannock and all my work is now workshop based.
All my optican maps are from Chipped UK Ltd, i'm sure most have heard of them, and they write the very best maps, as well as suppliers of tune files for a large number of independant tuners and performance centres. With an increasing number of dealers nationwide, if i'm not in your area you can guarantee chipped UK will have a dealer close to you. Although I cannot quote the prices they would offer, I can assume as typical rule anything Bosch EDC16 should be around £320-360 sterling.

As for my feedback, I haven't actually given collecting it much thought as my work comes in regardless, although when the site is finished I would like to have a feedback section.

Mark
 
You need a probe in the exhaust manifold really.

I think the ones logged by the VAG climate control must be theoretical values based on fuel injected.

didn't supply any info and it was the question I put to them.

Well OM646 EVO (2.2cdi 170bhp) has a T3 sensor (temp before turbine) and the VGT protection strategy automatically reduces injected quantity when the "EGT" reaches a certain value. This is also important for the ECU to know at a given time if it can activate the "overtorque" strategy on acceleration.

The real exhaust gas temp problems occur at altitude and when towing, and there, the standard maps from us are pretty close to the limit. If we could get away with an extra 30bhp permanently with good durability, believe me, it would be there as standard.

What makes me laugh is the ignorance of these tuning companies with arguments like "manufacturers build in huge tolerances for emissions and bad fuel blah blah" which simply isn´t true: the area where the engine is optimised for emissions is below 2500RPM and below 200Nm torque. Full load is optimised for peak cylinder pressure, exhaust gas temperature, turbocharger RPM, and temperature before the intercooler and it´s pretty much to the limit...

edit: Having said all of that, the A160cdi in question may only have the max torque map reduced compared to the A170cdi, so it may be safe to tune a little. It would be important to check if the bearings and intercooler are not cheaper cost-reduced parts over it´s bigger brother (is the case with 646 evo) If the engine really is the same, then an ECU swap from a 170cdi would be a good option...

Regards
Matt
 
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Mat
Thanks for that.
I always knew the regular maps were pretty close to allowable thresholds, and the bit about tolerances for fuel is cobblers on a diesel as it can't be made to pink by using low cetane fuel.

It makes sense for the 2.2, 170 to run with an EGT sensor, it's being pushed pretty hard by then.
What temps are likely to get recorded on full chat up a steep hill?

Cheers
 
Mark
Talking about EGT, do you have any figures for pre and post mapping?

I must be very sad for EGT to even get into my head, the trouble is I like my pistons....:D
 
I haven't got any figure to hand, but i'm sure i can chase them up for posting on here. I've read a bit about poor fuels etc on some tuners sites, i thought it was simply to homour us, no?

reasons for factory de-tune
1. Over-all performance 'optimised'
2. Competition in the market place (Insurance, etc)
3. Warranty
..good so far?
 
Site is being updated. We have done alot of optican remaps, and i've 'never' had a problem with them! I used to do mobile work around lincolnshire and london, but now we have a nice unit in Cannock and all my work is now workshop based.
All my optican maps are from Chipped UK Ltd, i'm sure most have heard of them, and they write the very best maps, as well as suppliers of tune files for a large number of independant tuners and performance centres. With an increasing number of dealers nationwide, if i'm not in your area you can guarantee chipped UK will have a dealer close to you. Although I cannot quote the prices they would offer, I can assume as typical rule anything Bosch EDC16 should be around £320-360 sterling.

As for my feedback, I haven't actually given collecting it much thought as my work comes in regardless, although when the site is finished I would like to have a feedback section.

Mark

I like the sound of your £220 offer.

Can you recommend a dealer near to me in surrey?
 
Chipped UK? Heard of them, not for the right reasons though.

It seems we are scratching about trying to find one, but would be really nice to find a real tuner, not just a reseller for someone elses generic maps.
 
Randstat is now seeking dealers in the uk for their range of diesel tuning chips, they have been fully approved by MB in Holland.

Good news for some

I have just posted this as a new thread
 
Meaning??

Meaning I am aware of him having been installing chip tuning for quite a few years now, I hear his name on a lot of forums and unless I am mistaken working for a few different outfits.

The comment was just that and neither meant to be good nor bad.
 
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What can you offer for a 1999 E55 AMG Mark?
Can you do petrols too?

I have 1/16" lift billet cams already though.
 
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Mat

It makes sense for the 2.2, 170 to run with an EGT sensor, it's being pushed pretty hard by then.
What temps are likely to get recorded on full chat up a steep hill?

Cheers


For the 646 EVO, 810-820degC could be reached. 830deg is the absolute limit to avoid killing the turbo...

I wouldn´t worry about killing your pistons, it´s the turbo that´s most at risk.

Regards
Matt
 
Chipped UK? Heard of them, not for the right reasons though.

It seems we are scratching about trying to find one, but would be really nice to find a real tuner, not just a reseller for someone elses generic maps.

Graham,

Can you PM those reasons? I dont want to go with the wrong people!
 
Well OM646 EVO (2.2cdi 170bhp) has a T3 sensor (temp before turbine) and the VGT protection strategy automatically reduces injected quantity when the "EGT" reaches a certain value. This is also important for the ECU to know at a given time if it can activate the "overtorque" strategy on acceleration.

The real exhaust gas temp problems occur at altitude and when towing, and there, the standard maps from us are pretty close to the limit. If we could get away with an extra 30bhp permanently with good durability, believe me, it would be there as standard.

What makes me laugh is the ignorance of these tuning companies with arguments like "manufacturers build in huge tolerances for emissions and bad fuel blah blah" which simply isn´t true: the area where the engine is optimised for emissions is below 2500RPM and below 200Nm torque. Full load is optimised for peak cylinder pressure, exhaust gas temperature, turbocharger RPM, and temperature before the intercooler and it´s pretty much to the limit...

edit: Having said all of that, the A160cdi in question may only have the max torque map reduced compared to the A170cdi, so it may be safe to tune a little. It would be important to check if the bearings and intercooler are not cheaper cost-reduced parts over it´s bigger brother (is the case with 646 evo) If the engine really is the same, then an ECU swap from a 170cdi would be a good option...

Regards
Matt

Interesting comments.

My car is the W169 A160CDi so the A170 ecu is not an option. Given that the A160, A180 and A200 cdi engines are the same unit, albeit with a different ECU and possibly turbo charger, what do you think the implications are for a remap?
 
Interesting comments.

My car is the W169 A160CDi so the A170 ecu is not an option. Given that the A160, A180 and A200 cdi engines are the same unit, albeit with a different ECU and possibly turbo charger, what do you think the implications are for a remap?


Ah, ok. i'll ask around the office tomorrow exactly what the differences between the three engines are.

Concerning a remap; not sure i trust the abilities/knowledge of any of these chip tuners

Regards
Matt
 
I have known and used chipped Uk for some time now, they are in my opinion the very best tuners. They have a good history in data programming and experience within the motorsport sectors. Obviously this is my view, and clearly peoples views differ some what, all I can say is they are very good at what they do, they know exactly what they are doing and I wouldn't recommend anyone else! For dealers in your area, i suggest contacting Chipped UK direct on 01527579345.
They will also advise on any queries you may have, incase i do not respond in time.

Mark
Remap MicroElectronics UK
 

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