SPECS speed cameras and bikes

[kwakdonut]

Might have been a tad more heplful if you had mentioned that first! Any biker overtaking a blue light already well past the speed limit deserves everything that they will (eventually) get.
I imagine that your mind was otherwise occupied and therefore unable to remember the numpties reg number?

 

[JumboBeef]

I imagine that your mind was otherwise occupied and therefore unable to remember the numpties reg number?

There is very little point as it happens so often, some people seem to love to race the emergency services, or can't bear to be overtaken by anyone I will report them if they block me/force me to slow or change direction though.

 

[kwakdonut]

It's madness - even on two wheels, I would never 'challenge' any blue lit vehicle.

It makes you wonder what is going through their minds - hopefully, their own assholes one day......

 

[corned]

Isthis you saying 'what if' or have you personal knowledge of anything like this taking place?

No - this is hypothetical, John. But I'm a cynical b@st@rd, and I can't think of why it could not happen.

I suppose it's like my other camera-related beef - again hypothetical (to me at least) - but I bet it has happened to someone:

Stop camera on a set of lights. Blues and 2's approach from behind, you move forward over the line to assist it's passage. 2 weeks later a letter arrives in the post with a photo of you over the line. Then what? You won't have any opportunity to gather witnesses to say you were getting out of the way of an emergency vehicle. Your sole source of defence would be if the occupants of said EM vehicle saw the flash, realised what had happened and called in at the time to say that someone on that particular junction had been flashed whilst they were trying to help.

Or, if anyone monitors the photos going out in the post and happened to notice that the next photo in line was the EM vehicle going through the red, and the timestamps were only seconds apart.

Cynical? Bitter and twisted? Moi?

 

[glojo]

There is very little point as it happens so often, some people seem to love to race the emergency services, or can't bear to be overtaken by anyone I will report them if they block me/force me to slow or change direction though.

I cannot imagine what type of officer would allow a member of the public to overrtake them at the speeds being discussed and NOT take any action???? I am at a loss to figure that one out.

I weas thinking you were going to say it was a colleague on a police bike showing you that you were not making enough progress.

I take it you were speeding for a reason?

If you were making progress as fast as you deemed safe for the location and the conditions; then in your professional opinion, what was the riding style of this member of the public, were thery riding in a safe and responsible manner?

corned
I have heard lots of folks on t'internet that claimed they went through red lights to get out of the path of an emergency vehicle.

All I will tactfully say is that we as road users should always assist the free passage of emergency vehicles that are in a hurry. Usually the best thing to do is either maintain a constant speed or perhaps consider gently pulling over to your nearside but obviously every situation will be different.

Red lights
A good professional emergency driver will assess the approaching hazard, determine a course of action and maybe even switch off the audible device if they assess there is no way they can safely negotiate the hazard.

If weas the lead driver feel that we are obstructing this vehicle and if we feel that slowly creeping forward might allow the emergencey vehicle to clear the lights, then we are taking a gamble

BUT

Camera's take two sets of pictures and the offending vehicles speed can be assessed, PLUS the emergency vehicle will be in the frames.. I do NOT accept folks that say they drove through a red light at what they considered a safe speed and the emergency vehicle was some distance away... that is taking the mickey and they are liable to prosecution. If we gently pull forward, then the chances are we will not get prosecuted

 

[JumboBeef]

I cannot imagine what type of officer would allow a member of the public to overrtake them at the speeds being discussed and NOT take any action???? I am at a loss to figure that one out.

Short answer: I do not work for the police. Also, I do not have a calibrated speedo.

I take it you were speeding for a reason?

I really don't know how to answer this one: an emergency vehicle doesn't exceed the limit unless it has a very good reason to do so. Anyway, the driver of an emergency vehicle, travelling to an emergency, cannot speed: he/she claims exemption from the speed limits.

If you were making progress as fast as you deemed safe for the location and the conditions; then in your professional opinion, what was the riding style of this member of the public, were thery riding in a safe and responsible manner?

They were travelling (according to my speedo) well over 100mph: more than 40mph over the top, on an open rural straight A road. I think they were being a muppet, others may or may not agree.

 

[glojo]

I really don't know how to answer this one: an emergency vehicle doesn't exceed the limit unless it has a very good reason to do so. Anyway, the driver of an emergency vehicle, travelling to an emergency, cannot speed: he/she claims exemption from the speed limits.

Very good, perhapsmy termology was a bit askew

Exceeding the speed limit works for me as opposed to speeding works for me

I would still report anyone that overtook me.

Is your vehicle marked as anemergency vehicle, or does it just have a blue light?

(Not a trick question as I always used to have the old magnetic blue light).

If your vehicle was unmarked then that idiot would not know who the ocupant\s were. If the vehicle was marked, then to me they were being plain stupid.

Not being a police officer may create problems, but not having a calibrated speedometer isNOT a problem. Your local authority will definitely have a measured mile which the local police would use to calibrate your speedometer. I would like to think the CPS would runwith a charge of at the very least speeding, but that would be dependant on what you had to say and your driving qualifications which might carry further weight

 

[Triple Star]

I have overtaken a policeman at about 125mph, and it was an amazing feeling. however.

a. I was in the Isle of Man on a R6, he was in a Subaru.

b. Its completely legal and i suppose just had to be done.

 

[JumboBeef]

Is your vehicle marked as anemergency vehicle, or does it just have a blue light?

Fully marked up, front and rear, with blue lights apenlty and a siren.