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Date of first registration is usually the date used for mot exemption, at exactly 40 years old, and the historic tax class, on the 1st of April (start of financial year) following the date of first registration.. An owners club may be able to provide a date when the vehicle was manufactured if the owner wants to try their luck to get an earlier start date but i have no idea what the legitimate process for that is. Used for imported classics possibly?
With Mercedes-Benz you can get a certificate from the Oldtimer Centre documenting the date of manufacture ; I got mine for my Ponton many years ago , in the form of a letter from Herr Von Pein , for free , but I believe it is now charged for .
 
Significantly over 40 years of age , and another non-ICE vehicle

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Certainly External Combustion, but still a CO2, pollution and fossil fuel issue here.

My genes go back all the way back to steam powered traction engines.

We still wonder why they stopped using steam trains underground

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Saw this online today and reminded me of this thread. 🤣😂
 
In respect of the Road fund tax, the DVLA will accept a dating certificate if they recognise the issuer but that was going to cost more than a years tax so it was a pointless exercise. I did have evidence in the form of production dates for my serial number but that wasn't accepted even though the information was produced by BMW.

The MOT exemption is self declared in that you fill in a form V112 and hand it in at the post office in leu of an MOT certificate. That only needs doing once.

Date of first registration is usually the date used for mot exemption, at exactly 40 years old, and the historic tax class, on the 1st of April (start of financial year) following the date of first registration.. An owners club may be able to provide a date when the vehicle was manufactured if the owner wants to try their luck to get an earlier start date but i have no idea what the legitimate process for that is. Used for imported classics possibly?
It was more the 'conditions' for MOT and VED exemption I had in mind. For one of those (MOT?) the vehicle has to be close to how it left the factory and any subsequent modifications can obviate the exemption and the likes of the owners clubs are called on to approve/disapprove disputed modifications. I think it is the MOT exemption that hangs on this and am interested to know the extent of modifications permitted before exemption is revoked.
 
It was more the 'conditions' for MOT and VED exemption I had in mind. For one of those (MOT?) the vehicle has to be close to how it left the factory and any subsequent modifications can obviate the exemption and the likes of the owners clubs are called on to approve/disapprove disputed modifications. I think it is the MOT exemption that hangs on this and am interested to know the extent of modifications permitted before exemption is revoked.

It's explained in some detail on the form V112 that I mentioned. It defines what substantial change means and lists a number of exemptions, you can even change the size of the engine provided it's the same basic type. It's not at all onerous and looked to me like you would be hard put to fall foul of it.

Declaration of exemption from MOT (V112)
 
It's explained in some detail on the form V112 that I mentioned. It defines what substantial change means and lists a number of exemptions, you can even change the size of the engine provided it's the same basic type. It's not at all onerous and looked to me like you would be hard put to fall foul of it.

Declaration of exemption from MOT (V112)
Thanks - appreciated.
Say, if a modification was there such that it obviated the MOT exemption - is the VED exemption still applicable or does it disappear along with the MOT exemption?
 

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