Some of the German ones had V-16 or even V-24 engines , and sometimes as many as three of them , made of course by D-BPetrol V12s were also widely used in tanks and coastal motor boats (MTB, MGB, HSL, etc.)
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Not sure that it is a purely UK thing , there are historic vehicle classes throughout the EU , sometimes , like in Germany , they are given ‘H’ plates so they can be recognised, and sometimes there are restrictions , like in Belgium where they can’t go more than a certain distance ( 50Km ? ) from their registered address after dark !!!You already know the answer to this question... the government is obviously not encouraging people to run 40 years old cars
In fact, cars aren't automatically exempt when they become 40 years old, instead you need to apply for 'historic' vehicle classification and accept the restrictions that come with that.
This is how the authorities can ensure that these are real collectors' cars, as opposed to cars bought by penny-pinching motorists looking for a jalopy that they can run on the cheap.
And, yes, there will always be some tight geezer who will happily buy a surviving 1982 Austin Metro to use as his daily runner, have it classified as 'historic' vehicle, and keep boasting at the pub how much money he's saving every day....
But you knew all that.
Applying for the status is just a formality , and also nothing to stop people buying cars close to the cut off date and just SORN-ing them until they become exempt .
At Largs perchance ?My grandfather was in RAF air sea rescue, up in Scotland
Indeed , but once we have a nuclear war , it will be the 200D’s that will still run and all the electronics will be fried , apart from the Russian stuff that still uses thermionic valves .
And , here in Scotland , they become LEZ exempt on their exact 30th birthday , hence I took mine , first registered 1st August 1994 into Glasgow city centre on the 1st August this year , and numerous times since , also into Edinburgh and Dundee - just because I can !
Not only that , but the service providers turn off the infrastructure that the older phones operate on , turning them into bricks .
Your last point will be a feature of the Apple car , if ever it comes out .
Doesn't ring a bell, I have a vague recollection it might have been Lerwick and/or Wick but I could be wrong.
Fair enough , I just know , being local , that Largs Air Station was where a lot of Catalina Flying Boats operated from and they were primarily used for rescuing airmen who had been shot down over water . It was a Catalina out of Largs which famously spotted Bismarck and guided the RN to engage her , also on some of the signage there is mention that a certain Ludovic Kennedy was one of the pilots who flew out of there .
I imagine Lerwick would have been a good location to cover rescues across the North Sea .
My dad spent pretty much the entirety of the war fighting in France , although had a period back home after escaping the German occupation, and later being invalided home after being shot in the rear end by one of our own guys ( although he didn’t put it so politely) !
I knew he'd served as a Naval officer, but he wasn't ever a pilot AFAIK??
You’re right : I knew there was a well known broadcaster who flew Catalina’s out of Largs - it was Hughie Green !
The reason Kennedy came to mind is that he was involved in chasing down Bismarck , and although his ship had to turn back because of fuel shortage , it was not before Kennedy , who had the only 16mm film camera in the fleet , managed to get some footage of Bismarck being attacked . This is noted in Robert Ballard’s book ‘Discovering The Bismarck’ .
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Which of the two can require authenticity approved by the likes of an owners club?
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Ludo was a private flyer - there was a story about him hiring a plane while still at Eton for a day trip to France in the 1930's - but his military career was straightforward Royal Navy. I think his family were all RN.
In respect of the Road fund tax, the DVLA will accept a dating certificate if they recognise the issuer but that was going to cost more than a years tax so it was a pointless exercise. I did have evidence in the form of production dates for my serial number but that wasn't accepted even though the information was produced by BMW.
The MOT exemption is self declared in that you fill in a form V112 and hand it in at the post office in leu of an MOT certificate. That only needs doing once.
His father was a retired RN captain who went back in at the start of WWII . he was captain of the HMS Rawalpindi which caught sight of Scharnhorst and Gneisenau , reporting their positions to the Admiralty as they tried to break out into the Atlantic .
Instead of running for cover , Capt. Kennedy engaged the two more powerful ships and alas was sunk , along with most of his crew , due to the German ships superior firepower .
That is a good website . I live less than 10 miles from Largs and have visited the Vikingar Centre ( which was the workshops for the air station ) as well as having seen the memorial , which is just across the prom from the slip , now used by the RNLI . If you go into the centre there is , or at least was when I last visited , 10 years ago , a wall covered with information about the air centre , and books for sale in the souvenir shop . I was also aware of the other two slips as the Cumbrae Ferry uses them , but didn't realise there were so many sunken flying boats in the area .
There is a Catalina which is a regular visitor to the Scottish Airshow in Ayr , and I recall filming it , along with Vulcan XH-588 , and the two Lancasters when they visited in 2014 .
The video is quite long , but lots to see , with Catalina near the start , Vulcan halfway through and the two Lancasters at the end .
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I know , because we ( Scottish Fire and Rescue Service ) have a training centre at Portlethen , just north of Stonehaven , which used to be part of the Chain Home Link radar system that stretched all the way from the Shetland and Orkney islands , down the East Coast of mainland Britain to serve as an early warning system to detect German aircraft attacking over the North Sea .
While I'm aware of various bays and inlets within the Shetlands , and of the airfield at Sumburgh , and think they have one of the few extant Geman Bombers which crashed somewhere near there but was left largely intact because the place is so remote , and you can still go and view it ; I'd have thought the natural harbour at Scapa Flow in the Orkneys , much as it was heavily used by the Royal Navy , would have made a better base for flying boats .
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Date of first registration is usually the date used for mot exemption, at exactly 40 years old, and the historic tax class, on the 1st of April (start of financial year) following the date of first registration.. An owners club may be able to provide a date when the vehicle was manufactured if the owner wants to try their luck to get an earlier start date but i have no idea what the legitimate process for that is. Used for imported classics possibly?
Bit of thread wander here!
Useful for 40 year old EVs though 
