I just carry one out of the barn - couldn't get much easier than that
And it's completely free, from our own field. So cheaper than granny charging, although definitely not zero emissions
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I just carry one out of the barn - couldn't get much easier than that
And it's completely free, from our own field. So cheaper than granny charging, although definitely not zero emissions
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DefinitelyII get the distinct feeling that Mr B Dazzler of this forum is forming a similar opinion..........even if his stable block is just a little larger and more MB.
An EV city car and an ICE full-size SUV, is a great real world “two car garage”.
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I just carry one out of the barn - couldn't get much easier than that
And it's completely free, from our own field. So cheaper than granny charging, although definitely not zero emissions
Most people don't live near a field...
And, I suppose that - equally - the per-mile carbon footprint of ICE cars owned by people who happen to live next to an ARAMCO petroleum processing plant in Saudi Arabia is much lower than that of your Merc here in the UK...
Mercedes-Benz have championed active safety for many decades , and I don’t wish to fight with so called driver aids that think they know better than I do . I’n more than 50 years and a couple of million miles I’ve never ended up in a ditch . If I need help I have both a mobile phone and a cb radio
Comments by the readership of the Daily Mail can be filed in that receptacle under your deskAlso in the news....:
Classic cars could face MoTs as public backs safety checks
Under current rules, vehicles registered more than 40 years ago no longer needs to undergo annual road worthiness check-ups as the general consensus is they are owned by enthusiasts.mol.im
IMHO, a poor decision to scrap MOT tests for these cars in the first place.Also in the news....:
Classic cars could face MoTs as public backs safety checks
Under current rules, vehicles registered more than 40 years ago no longer needs to undergo annual road worthiness check-ups as the general consensus is they are owned by enthusiasts.
VED exemption is one thing, but an annual inspection on a ramp (or pit…) is sensible. Despite minimal use, a lot of things age and there’s a good chance many of these 40+ year old cars are driving around with perished hoses, rusty bits underneath and what have you. It’s only £1 a week at the maximum MOT test fee anyway.
Don’t some of these diesel powered ones have the aux heaters that run off diesel too? They seem to chuck heat out pretty quick!
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Agreed.
Yes diesel cars and vans have had auxiliary heaters for decades ... pretty sure this was a factory option on the W124 (and some later models of E Class?).
The nice man who came to make up some remote keys for our C1 had a built-in diesel heater in his mobile workshop (high roof Transit) - very toasty inside
Yep, I have a Mikuni diesel heater on the boat which blows out warm air within a few seconds and seems to be pretty efficientYes diesel cars and vans have had auxiliary heaters for decades ... pretty sure this was a factory option on the W124 (and some later models of E Class?).
The nice man who came to make up some remote keys for our C1 had a built-in diesel heater in his mobile workshop (high roof Transit) - very toasty inside
An easy enough choice if the vehicle is question has diesel to hand already I guess.
Distinctly remember some older diesel cars without aux heaters that seemed to take a good 10-20 minutes so warm up/defrost in the winter though!
Amen to that!Definitely
An EV city car and an ICE full-size SUV, is a great real world “two car garage”.
I guess it was based on accident stats e.g. how often old/vintage cars are actually involved in injury accidents. Same argument applies to trailers & caravans - there has been talk of introducing annual inspections on those for years, but the huge cost of administering this simply can't be justified. A flipped caravan on the M4 or whatever looks spectacular but rarely results in anyone being hurt.
Obviously old cars couldn't have actual MOTs as a Model T Ford (or whatever) won't conform to any of the current safety/emissions/etc. requirements. Some sort of annual inspection might be an idea but there would be a danger of it being very subjective if it had to cater for a 100+ year age range of vehicles.
Naturally older vehicles won’t be tested to the same standards as newer ones - hasn’t that always been the case though?
E.g. for emissions standards, or older cars had no seatbelts in the rear etc.
We’re talking cars from the mid-1980s and older needing an annual inspection - there’s quite a few of those in regular use, not quite so many model-Ts etc (which I’m sure is what the scheme was aimed at originally!)
Don't diesels (in general) take longer to warm up than petrol - one of the reasons they're more suited to long runs?
The little 1 litre 3-pot petrol in our C1 (which only has manual aircon, so I'm sure doesn't have electrical heating) starts pumping out hot air very quickly ... with the thermostat closed the coolant is only going round the (small & light) block, so it warms up pretty fast.
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The consultation was actually regarding a one off test for modified or restomod ICE and EV converted classics. Nothing to do with 40+ year old unmodified historic status cars.Also in the news....:
Classic cars could face MoTs as public backs safety checks
Under current rules, vehicles registered more than 40 years ago no longer needs to undergo annual road worthiness check-ups as the general consensus is they are owned by enthusiasts.
Will classic cars soon have a one-off MOT - and can it make owning historic vehicles easier?
Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs proposes a 'one-off safety check' Test to make DVLA checks of restomods and...
www.fbhvc.co.uk
I’m sure I recall petrol engines use something like 400% more fuel on cold starts (ie choke or cold start enrichment), which certainly doesn’t help on short runs.
But petrol engines are also pretty inefficient - as you note they waste a lot of energy into heat which has to be dissipated rapidly (hence convenient on cold days to use some of this waste heat to warm the cabin!)
Diesels are more efficient, run cooler and have higher compression ratios. I’m sure someone more knowledgeable on this will chime in but diesel fuel is heavier and has a higher calorific value (hence a litre of diesel has more energy than a litre of petrol)
Good for consumption on long journeys, but not good for humans to breathe in the emissions obviously - hence the move away from them.
Creosote was great for protecting fences, asbestos was seen as great for protection from heat, etc too.
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DPF's remove 99% of particulate matter from exhausts. You could call that a solution to a, mostly diesel, ICE problem.
Will be interesting to see how Euro 7 and onwards emissions standards for ICE and EV's cope with the much more difficult to solve brake and tyre friction particulates issue. How do you 'catch' the brake dust and tyre matter from the 30+ million cars currently registered in the UK? Tax all the cars with big brakes and wide low profile rubber off the road perhaps?
Will be interesting to see how Euro 7 and onwards emissions standards for ICE and EV's cope with the much more difficult to solve brake and tyre friction particulates issue. How do you 'catch' the brake dust and tyre matter from the 30+ million cars currently registered in the UK? Tax all the cars with big brakes and wide low profile rubber off the road perhaps?
Also in the news....:
Classic cars could face MoTs as public backs safety checks
Under current rules, vehicles registered more than 40 years ago no longer needs to undergo annual road worthiness check-ups as the general consensus is they are owned by enthusiasts.
The first question that sprang to mind when I read this was what's driving this change on classic vehicle exemption ?
The 2nd question that sprang to mind was why would the DfT consult with members of the public who had no experience of running a classic vehicle knowing that they would have no rational or knowledgeable basis for a response.
Did this idea start from evidence that vehicles exempt from MOT's are over represented in crashes. If that were true I would support the move but I very much doubt it's the case and in fact I would be very surprised if the opposite isn't true. Either way this would be a rational basis for a decision. As it is I suspect this change if it happens will be yet another policy based on very little more more than spite and envy.
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