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No, the issue is it has no type approval in the UK so is illegal to drive on UK roads, regardless of insurance.
It ought to be illegal anyway on the grounds of having 35" wheels, but that's just my view!
Lol - you didn’t read the post did you. It’s on foreign plates so doesn’t need UK approval. 🤣
 
The same principles apply whether the journey is 80 or 800 miles, and whether the car’s range is 40 or 400 miles. Just like an ICE car if your journey is longer than the range of your vehicle then you just have to stop and refuel or recharge somewhere suitable along the way.

So why is it that EV drivers (apparently) get upset about the range changing (presumably that means going down - can't see that they'd be bothered about it going up!) while they drive?

I've made my suggestion i.e. that the range is unpredictable compared to (ICE) cars they've had before, because it's way more affected by weather and speed. Seems you don't agree, which is fine, but what's your theory for @markjay then? As a reminder:

When it comes to EV, however, some people seem livid if the remaining range unexpectedly goes down after they started their journey.

The point I was making is that people seem disappointed - often complaining - that the 'remaining range' changes as they drive.
 
So why is it that EV drivers (apparently) get upset about the range changing (presumably that means going down - can't see that they'd be bothered about it going up!) while they drive?

I've made my suggestion i.e. that the range is unpredictable compared to (ICE) cars they've had before, because it's way more affected by weather and speed. Seems you don't agree, which is fine, but what's your theory for @markjay then? As a reminder:

This:

....I mean, before signing on the dotted line committing to spend £xxx over 2 or 3 years, can you not Google 'C350e review' (or whatever model you're buying)? Seriously?

I agree that the range while driving on battery 'is way more affected by weather and speed'. I still can't understand why people buy or lease one and expect the WLTP range to apply in all conditions.

I also can't understand why people who don't have one keep complaining about reduced range on long journeys, but rarely say 'what an anzing idea it is for a city car'.
 
'Amazing', rather...
 
Hi,
For those concerned about absolute range in an EV - we are seeing more and more REEVs (Range Extender Electric Vehicle) available here in the UAE.
These are EVs with a conventional small engine - that does not actually drive the wheels.
The engine is used to drive a generator that then charges the batteries.
This is almost a perfect solution for people that have huge range anxiety or who are driving in an area with sparse charging options.
The ROX01 and BYD U8 are becoming more popular here (I think they might even be made in the same factory!)
They both look suspiciously like a Land Rover Defender!
Other cars are also starting to be sold here from Xpeng and other manufacturers.
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The matte car above is the ROX01 and the shiny one is a BYD U8.
They cost equivalent of around £55,000 fully loaded & including a 7-year full warranty.

Cheers
Steve
 
Hi,
For those concerned about absolute range in an EV - we are seeing more and more REEVs (Range Extender Electric Vehicle) available here in the UAE.
These are EVs with a conventional small engine - that does not actually drive the wheels.
The engine is used to drive a generator that then charges the batteries.
This is almost a perfect solution for people that have huge range anxiety or who are driving in an area with sparse charging options.
The ROX01 and BYD U8 are becoming more popular here (I think they might even be made in the same factory!)
They both look suspiciously like a Land Rover Defender!
Other cars are also starting to be sold here from Xpeng and other manufacturers.
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The matte car above is the ROX01 and the shiny one is a BYD U8.
They cost equivalent of around £55,000 fully loaded & including a 7-year full warranty.

Cheers
Steve

Something like this, then....:

 
Lol - you didn’t read the post did you. It’s on foreign plates so doesn’t need UK approval. 🤣
No need to pax any import taxes either i suppose? Can you even complete a NOVA declaration, so HMRC can assess a vehicles potential tax liability, for a vehicle that has no UK type approval? What would be the point when you cannot progress to the next stage which is registering the vehicle with the DVLA?

A UK resident officially importing a car to the UK requires a NOVA declaration so HMRC can access any potential VAT liability. 14 days from its UK arrival date is the deadline for that with fines issued thereafter. A Tesla cybertruck is also classed as an HGV which complicates matters further regarding VAT liability.
 
No need to pax any import taxes either i suppose? Can you even complete a NOVA declaration, so HMRC can assess a vehicles potential tax liability, for a vehicle that has no UK type approval? What would be the point when you cannot progress to the next stage which is registering the vehicle with the DVLA?

A UK resident officially importing a car to the UK requires a NOVA declaration so HMRC can access any potential VAT liability. 14 days from its UK arrival date is the deadline for that with fines issued thereafter. A Tesla cybertruck is also classed as an HGV which complicates matters further regarding VAT liability.


True - that's why they're not importing the cars - instead they drive then on foreign plates - like a tourist would.
 
True - that's why they're not importing the cars - instead they drive then on foreign plates - like a tourist would.
These pretend tourists are avoiding import tax. Plain and simple. HMRC's penalty clock is ticking every day after the vehicles 14th day on UK soil.
 
I agree that the range while driving on battery 'is way more affected by weather and speed'. I still can't understand why people buy or lease one and expect the WLTP range to apply in all conditions.

They probably don't, but equally they may not be expecting to get only half that range under some conditions (because no car they've owned before has ever done that).

I also can't understand why people who don't have one keep complaining about reduced range on long journeys, but rarely say 'what an anzing idea it is for a city car'.

To some extent that's just human nature - people tend to be more vocal about things they don't like. But of course many small ICE are also excellent city cars, so that may not be a huge plus if they've switched from one of those and aren't that bothered about zero emissions :dk:

Again, just my theories!
 
For those concerned about absolute range in an EV - we are seeing more and more REEVs (Range Extender Electric Vehicle) available here in the UAE.
These are EVs with a conventional small engine - that does not actually drive the wheels.
The engine is used to drive a generator that then charges the batteries.
This is almost a perfect solution for people that have huge range anxiety or who are driving in an area with sparse charging options.

That's how Nissan 'e-POWER' cars like the X-Trail and Qashqai work ("series hybrid" configuration). But any hybrid would give the same benefit of extended range, being able to run continuously on ICE power if necessary.
 
The BBC are rubbish i agree but they do not yet count as a tabloid.:D


The problem with the BBC is that they have been living on their historical image for quite some time. If I took away the BBC heading at the top of the web page and read the content without knowing who it was, I would file it along side the Guardian as generally left wing, pro Palestinian and anti Israel. That's not good enough for the national broadcaster that we pay for. I agree it's not as bad as a tabloid though.

To add some EV content, I did seriously consider an EV in the form of an e-Golf but the range wasn't good enough as I'm not prepared to stop for a top up on a 2 hour trip across the M62. A disturbing thing about VW id3 was the servicing cost being quite expensive considering it's just an inspection and I read reports that only VW can reset the service light. If that's not bad enough sometimes even VW couldn't do the reset because of software glitches.
 
Meanwhile JCB's hydrogen combustion engine has been licensed for commercial use in the Netherlands Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Germany, France, Spain, Belgium, Poland, Finland, Switzerland and Lichtenstein with other countries to follow.
Beginning to wonder if this approval isn't for offroad (site) use only. No mention of road registration and that flies in the face of the pending ban on ICE sales. As would any EV with range extender ICE.
 

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