The EV fact thread

[PXW]

LOL .....

No one expects the Spanish inquisition.

Merely pointing out that the comment about the insurance cost tripling was not informative without context. Was not expecting any answers!

 

[philnewmerc]

A retired friend of mine who lives in Devon was looking at replacing his 3 litre TDi Audi with a used Tesla ... the cheapest insurance quote he got was almost 3 times what he pays for the Audi.

Out of curiosity I've just run a GoCompare check:
CLS55 2005 value 12k, £540
Tesla S 2014 value 12k, £680 (though all the quotes listed below that one were over a £1000 for some reason)

So, not much difference really though personally I'd expect the AMG to be higher...

 

[davymead]

11.08

Hee-hee-hee - he's got a great turn of phrase...

Excellent.

 

[Dryce]

Merely pointing out that the comment about the insurance cost tripling was not informative without context. Was not expecting any answers!

See - unexpected bonus replies - this thread continues to deliver to new levels.

 

[MeQ]

My insurance doubled when I got the EQE but was to be expected being 2.5x the value and 6 years newer. The claim for the previous merc being stolen didn’t help by wasn’t the main reason for the increase.

 

[BTB 500]

Instead of a Tesla? Other brands of EVs are also available, you know....

Possibly not within budget though if he was looking at a 7 year old Tesla. I suspect he wouldn't be interested in old Leafs etc.

 

[Steveml63]

If I bought a new car with private cash and then the manufacturer slashed the price by 10k it wouldn't take an EV battery fire to make my piss boil ! Fair play being so philosophical !

The key point is whether you were happy with the price you paid - at the time you paid it!
Of course - I would rather have paid 10K less!

 

[Noitz]

Unlucky! Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why that is?

 

[markjay]

Obviously, safety issues needs to be takes very seriously.

The anecdote here is that some people will go out of their way to point out any failure related to EVs, however the very same people simply yawned at the news that Zafiras or Minis etc were spontaneously bursting into flames at the time.

The fact that the safety issues are real does not make their comments any less disingenuous...

 

[grober]

DUP

 

[ALFAitalia]

It appears that even EV Mercs are not immune from spontaneous combustion.......would this have made the news if it was an ICE car?.....nope! Her house looks nothing like a "total loss and rebuild" to me!! Drama Queen.

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[SmartAmg]

It appears that even EV Mercs are not immune from spontaneous combustion.......would this have made the news if it was ab ICE car. Her house looks nothing like a "total loss and rebuild" to me!!

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No, It wouldn't have been a the news.

 

[ChipChop]

Some very melted looking panels on that EQE. Are the door and bonnet skins made of plastic or alloy? Hopefully not magnesium.

 

[Ted]

Just driven past a totally burned out VW T2 near Rugby.
I’m guessing that wasn’t an EV.
Felt for the owners though and hope all are ok.

 

[BTB 500]

Just driven past a totally burned out VW T2 near Rugby.
I’m guessing that wasn’t an EV.
Felt for the owners though and hope all are ok.

Depends how shiny it was before it caught fire - converting old VWs (a T2 would be at least 45 years old now) to electric is pretty trendy e.g.

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etc.

Having said that IIRC vehicle fires have historically been skewed quite heavily towards older vehicles (wear & tear, poor/no maintenance, non-OEM parts, etc. over the years).

 

[SmartAmg]

Just driven past a totally burned out VW T2 near Rugby.
I’m guessing that wasn’t an EV.
Felt for the owners though and hope all are ok.

Yep, hope are all ok.

Depends how shiny it was before it caught fire - converting old VWs (a T2 would be at least 45 years old now) to electric is pretty trendy e.g.

Behave.

 

[Dryce]

The key point is whether you were happy with the price you paid - at the time you paid it!

Maybe for you.

I do a spreadsheet before a car purchase and look at the projected cost over the period I plan to own it and factor in anticipated depreciation when figuring the likely cost.

As for other purchases then -= yes the issue is was it worth the price I paid at the time of purchase. But with cars no - expected depreciation is part of the decision making process.

 

[markjay]

Maybe for you.

I do a spreadsheet before a car purchase and look at the projected cost over the period I plan to own it and factor in anticipated depreciation when figuring the likely cost.

As for other purchases then -= yes the issue is was it worth the price I paid at the time of purchase. But with cars no - expected depreciation is part of the decision making process.

When talking about depreciation when buying a new car outright, there are some bad choices and there are some worse ones. But they are no good choices (unless you're buying certain models of limited edition supercars).

A new car will typically lose (roughly) between 30% and 50% of its value in the first three years. And, the depreciation isn't linear, with the car losing relatively more at the start of the period compared to the end of the period.

The only way to avoid shouldering massive depreciation is to allow someone else (typically a finance provider) to shoulder the initial massive depreciation by buying a car that is two or three years old at least.

Buying new while looking to minimise depreciation is like jumping head-on into the shallow side of the swimming pool, while debating whether to jump from the pool edge or from the springboard - either way it will hurt.

 

[SmartAmg]

Never bothered about depreciation on Cars in me life, if I really want a particular car, I'll get it, end of, simple's.

 

[ALFAitalia]

I do a spreadsheet before a car purchase and look at the projected cost over the period I plan to own it and factor in anticipated depreciation when figuring the likely cost.

Oh dear.........I really hope that's not true...... im guessing If it was you would never buy a Merc in the first place...... and probably would not admit to it on a public car forum!