The EV fact thread

[ALFAitalia]

The only way to avoid shouldering massive depreciation is to allow someone else (typically a finance provider) to shoulder the initial massive depreciation by buying a car that is two or three years old at least.

That's about the only entity in the car buying chain that definitely won't shoulder any of the depreciation !.... in fact they will be making a nice profit thank you very much! The person shouldering the loss is the first owner....or the company he works for.

 

[pioneercollector]

I tend to look at the current market for 'nice' cars that peak my interest, and then check the prices in 10 - 15 years time, find what i want and buy it ....... Hence the older SL i purchased a couple of years ago - Yes they will need work to bring them up to as built specification, but those costs are nothing compared the the new purchase price! And i enjoy restoring older vehicles ....
Never ever enter this arena with the intention of making money, highly unlikely, just enjoy the vehicle.....
By the time that my current vehicles have been worn out by me, and i tend to keep my vehicles for YEARS, there will probably be a 10 - 15 year old EV that has 1000 mile range and will cost me 10% of the original asking price

 

[grober]

FIRE BLANKET-interesting approach to EV fires-wonder if any UK brigades are similarly equipped?

EV Car Fire Blanket - 8 x 6 metres - Prosol

EV Car Fire Blanket is manufactured from specialised quartz material with a silicon polymer coating. 8 x 6 metres

www.prosol.co.uk

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[BTB 500]

FIRE BLANKET-interesting approach to EV fires-wonder if any UK brigades are similarly equipped?

You can't stop a Li Ion fire by depriving it of oxygen - it's self-sustaining. But a blanket like that could help prevent it spreading to adjacent vehicles/structures.

Not sure I'd want to be the firefighters having to stand that close to a burning EV to cover it up though. And less practical for bigger/taller vehicles (buses, trucks).

 

[Petrol Pete]

Videos exist of EV's burning underwater so not sure what a blanket (any blanket) might do to stop an EV fire ? Guide the inferno blast elsewhere and help to stop shrapnel during the subsequent multiple cell explosions perhaps ?

Would nice to see the training video on an actual EV fire , not a petrol ICE car.

As for the first garage fire video....good grief . Thankfully no one was hurt in the making of this video but countless fire fighters are loving the overtime payments.

 

[W1ghty]

I just read that EDF have doubled the rate for their Economy 7 night time rate electric. Effectively removing the advantage of cheap overnight charging for EV users .
I would expect this to be adopted by other electric suppliers ?

 

[MeQ]

I just read that EDF have doubled the rate for their Economy 7 night time rate electric. Effectively removing the advantage of cheap overnight charging for EV users .
I would expect this to be adopted by other electric suppliers ?

EDF EV tariff is 5 hours per night at 8p per kWh

 

[Noitz]

I just read that EDF have doubled the rate for their Economy 7 night time rate electric. Effectively removing the advantage of cheap overnight charging for EV users .
I would expect this to be adopted by other electric suppliers ?

Absolutely. The writing is on the wall for cheap EV ownership.

 

[W1ghty]

You can't stop a Li Ion fire by depriving it of oxygen - it's self-sustaining. But a blanket like that could help prevent it spreading to adjacent vehicles/structures.

Not sure I'd want to be the firefighters having to stand that close to a burning EV to cover it up though. And less practical for bigger/taller vehicles (buses, trucks).

I was in the Fire Service , standing next to those fires for the brief time it would take to pull a blanket over the car would be fine in the Fire gear , I doubt you would notice the heat .
They used to put us in containers all sat down next to a pile of burning wood (with breathing sets Bon obviously) , we would rate towards and away from the fire at one end . When you feel your body core really start to heat up there is a rising panic .

 

[W1ghty]

EDF EV tariff is 5 hours per night at 8p per kWh

This was the article , I didn’t know that EV owners had a separate car tariff.

EDF customers fear a cold winter after off-peak electricity rate almost doubles

Economy 7 users have always paid much cheaper rate to recharge storage or water heaters overnight

www.theguardian.com

 

[tode]

EDF EV tariff is 5 hours per night at 8p per kWh

You're very lucky - over here the EDF price is 16 pence at night !

 

[MeQ]

This was the article , I didn’t know that EV owners had a separate car tariff.

EDF customers fear a cold winter after off-peak electricity rate almost doubles

Economy 7 users have always paid much cheaper rate to recharge storage or water heaters overnight

www.theguardian.com

Most if not all suppliers now offer EV tariffs between 7p - 9.5p per kWh for 5 - 7 hours per night.

Mine is with octopus, 7.5p for 6 hours but also dynamic/intelligent charging allows extra charging hours when wholesale prices dip if the car is plugged in.

The lower rate is not limited to just car charging so the washing machine and dishwasher are on time delays to run in the lower window.

 

[MeQ]

You're very lucky - over here the EDF price is 16 pence at night !

On their EV tariff?

 

[clk320x]

You're very lucky - over here the EDF price is 16 pence at night !

Change to octopus then - we both get £50 credit with my referral code pm if you want it

 

[MeQ]

Change to octopus then - we both get £50 credit with my referral code pm if you want it

Or mine if you’d rather

 

[markjay]

EDF EV tariff is 5 hours per night at 8p per kWh

Wow that's cheap... what kWH? 13? And how much the installation?

 

[BTB 500]

I was in the Fire Service , standing next to those fires for the brief time it would take to pull a blanket over the car would be fine in the Fire gear , I doubt you would notice the heat .
They used to put us in containers all sat down next to a pile of burning wood (with breathing sets Bon obviously) , we would rate towards and away from the fire at one end . When you feel your body core really start to heat up there is a rising panic .

Point taken, although an EV in full thermal runaway is pretty spectacular ... you'd literally be walking through flames to put a blanket over it.

 

[SmartAmg]

Absolutely. The writing is on the wall for cheap EV ownership.

Why? There overnight tariff has nothing to do with there EV tariff. Has it? Separate things, aren't they?

 

[MeQ]

Wow that's cheap... what kWH? 13? And how much the installation?

I don’t use EDF, mine is cheaper with octopus

 

[pioneercollector]

Mine is cheaper still on three phase business rates!!