grober
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TOP GEAR---- a 30/40minute motoring show rattling about inside a hour long TV slot? 
TopGear Getting Boring / Clarkson Fired
nb_racing
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I enjoy it overall, yes, there are things I think are silly and unneccessary, but rough with the smooth and all that.
The reason I like it is watching them live out the dream drives/adventures/races/challenges that so many blokes would love to do given the time, money, space and resource.
Personally, I'm not bothered about the new lexus thing that, inconsequentailly, is rubbish, so am happy watching 3 grown men who should know better, **** about a bit. Just my opinion, but I certainly don't take the show seriously.
Who didn't enjoy seing and hearing that LFA? And it was used to demonstrate that lexus can do a good job on a peformance car if they try, asking the qustion why was the new M3 C63 rival is so poor.
Clarskon, who, I believe with Andy Wilman, essentailly owns the rights to Top Gear (or some such legal speak (and I might just be wrong entirely)), has always said that when they feel it's had its day, they'll simply knock it on the head, rather than change it. I don't know what the viewing figures are or have been, but I'd guess they are still pretty good.
I'm not critising anyone for not liking it, but it is what it is, like it or leave it.
automaniaman
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I found last nights show to be entertaining...
prprandall51
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Imagine the programme that Chris Harris could make if he had access to the Top Gear budget. That would be a proper car show. It's actually a mystery to me why he isn't on mainstream television.
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Up against Top Gear the show you propose would be seen as niche I suspect and the audience figures would be lower. Not a bad thing from a car enthusiast's view but, given it would be on commercial TV, profitable enough?
Always been a fan of Chris Harris until I saw a 'behind the scenes' evo video a while back, he's quite arrogant & self-righteous.
However, his videos are still great.
However, his videos are still great.
davidjpowell
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Because he's very very bland. He can powerslide lots though.
w124nut
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I thought that last night's edition was fine. I liked the report on the new MX5, the new Jaguar sports car vs the Eagle E type and James May's attempt at racing a 600 bhp hatchback (Motorcross). I would not have called these boring.
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After a few people on here raving about him I thought I'd watch a few of his videos.
The Chris Harris I found on YT was that bland, dreary and monotone that I genuinelly thought I'd either searched for the wrong person or there were two car reviewers with the same name.
I then worked out that this really was the Chris Harris who so many had creamed about. He was that dull and boring I found myself pondering whether sticking a knitting needle in my ear would be less painful.
bozmandb9
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When I were a lad t'Beeb us 't make proper car programs. Up at four, down mine, up chimneys, cold showers daily floggings, national service. Never did us any harm...
These modern Top Gear presenters don't know they're born. Rant rant blah blah.
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These modern Top Gear presenters don't know they're born. Rant rant blah blah.
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prprandall51
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Yes, but you find Top Gear entertaining, so I don't think he is aiming his material at you.
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I will watch pretty much anything car related; entertainment like Top Gear or low budget stuff like Classic Car Rescue on Discovery Turbo.
One good thing I found about watching his reviews is that if you're suffering from insomnia, he'd be an ideal remedy such is his monotone delivery.
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Chris Harris as a great written journalist and I genuinely used to look forward to reading his articles in Autocar, but for some reason his videos just don't do it for me at all. Weird.
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Gotta' say I'm struggling with motoring programmes.
Top Gear is boring, boring, boring. I have 4 episodes of this series recorded and having spotted a few snatches live on a Sunday night, I can't be bothered to watch them from end to end. I watched the first half of the Patagonia special and dumped the supposedly interesting second part unseen.
Fifth Gear has dropped into a similar rut. We'll have shoot out between two new / old /completely unaffordable cars based on how far can Tiff get the back end out and whether he has any chance of beating a better driver around a track (he hasn't). Vicki doesn't squeal for effect as much nowadays but even when she did, it was about as sexy as your mum opening a box of Christmas toiletries. No surprise that it's drifted from a mainstream channel to the high numbered dross on the Sky box.
And so to The Classic Car Show. They did the 928 as well the other week. Well Quentin knows his stuff and no-one is trying to rip the tyres off something tasty, but Jodie Kidd seems uncomfortably wooden. All in, it has the possibility to be the best motoring show but the presentation needs to be a little more slick. Dare I say, it needs to be a bit more like Top Gear?
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Top Gear is boring, boring, boring. I have 4 episodes of this series recorded and having spotted a few snatches live on a Sunday night, I can't be bothered to watch them from end to end. I watched the first half of the Patagonia special and dumped the supposedly interesting second part unseen.
Fifth Gear has dropped into a similar rut. We'll have shoot out between two new / old /completely unaffordable cars based on how far can Tiff get the back end out and whether he has any chance of beating a better driver around a track (he hasn't). Vicki doesn't squeal for effect as much nowadays but even when she did, it was about as sexy as your mum opening a box of Christmas toiletries. No surprise that it's drifted from a mainstream channel to the high numbered dross on the Sky box.
And so to The Classic Car Show. They did the 928 as well the other week. Well Quentin knows his stuff and no-one is trying to rip the tyres off something tasty, but Jodie Kidd seems uncomfortably wooden. All in, it has the possibility to be the best motoring show but the presentation needs to be a little more slick. Dare I say, it needs to be a bit more like Top Gear?
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Top Gear is for the layman, that's who enjoy it.
This thread proves that with the (motorcross) example!
If you're a proper car nerd/petrol head that would wind you up! it's rally cross. motorcross is no such thing either, it's motocross.
That's why men women and children enjoy it. it's dumbed down car silliness.
The nerds get wound up because it hasn't featured the latest model of their favourte marque and given how much leg room in the rear of a 7 seat volvo estate.....thats boring, just like chris harris is to the layman.
This is also why we watch masterchef of bake off programmes, they don't tell you how to cook or bake, but they are enjoyable for layfolk.... I dare say spongecake.co.uk forum has a rant thread about how it's not about cooking!
niche is for nerds, not that there's anything wrong with be nerdy about you're hobby, but we all know how annoying it is when you get a 'Derek' rambling on and on about their chosen hobby!
This thread proves that with the (motorcross) example!
If you're a proper car nerd/petrol head that would wind you up! it's rally cross. motorcross is no such thing either, it's motocross.
That's why men women and children enjoy it. it's dumbed down car silliness.
The nerds get wound up because it hasn't featured the latest model of their favourte marque and given how much leg room in the rear of a 7 seat volvo estate.....thats boring, just like chris harris is to the layman.
This is also why we watch masterchef of bake off programmes, they don't tell you how to cook or bake, but they are enjoyable for layfolk.... I dare say spongecake.co.uk forum has a rant thread about how it's not about cooking!
niche is for nerds, not that there's anything wrong with be nerdy about you're hobby, but we all know how annoying it is when you get a 'Derek' rambling on and on about their chosen hobby!
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Speak for yourself.
grober
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Top Gear a motoring programme that has " evolved" into a programme for people who know very little about cars, who are only interested in cars at a supeficial level and when it comes down to it care very little about cars anyway. Perhaps in microcosm mirrors what the viewing nation has become. - indifferent.
Try looking up "The Year of the Sex Olympics" made in 1968 why it might be important. The Year of the Sex Olympics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Synopsis:-
In the future, society is divided between 'low-drives' that equate with the labouring classes and 'hi-drives' who control the government and media. The low-drives are controlled by a constant broadcast of pornography that the hi-drives are convinced will pacify them, though one hi-drive, Nat Mender , believes that the media should be used to educate the low-drives. After the accidental death of a protester during the Sex Olympics gets a massive audience response, the Co-ordinator Ugo Priest decides to commission a new programme. In The Live Life Show, Nat Mender, his partner Deanie and their daughter Keten are stranded on a remote Scottish island while the low-drive audience watches. Mender's former colleague, Lasar Opie , realising that “something got to happen”, decides to spice up the show by introducing a psychopath, Grels to the island. When Grels goes on a murderous rampage, Ugo Priest is horrified when the audience reacts with laughter to the slaughter and The Live Life Show is deemed a triumph.
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