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That's del320's job. He's got used to it now...
V6CDi loss of power
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That's del320's job. He's got used to it now...
Commiserations Steve, that is a hefty bill to face.
My car is similar age & mileage & I have gone through two seals,now with the modified one currently fitted.
My wife drives it 90% of the time so it only gets properly exercised when I
get hold of it.
I note that Alex Crowe has got a modification under way for the EGR but not
for the W211 yet.
I have also read that someone has made a DIY plate placed over the shutoff
motor to deflect the oil seepage away from it.
Olly`s advice that he has already had to renew circa 20 cases of worn butterfly linkages would indicate that this will become an integrated problem.
I have not seen many reports of the post facelift V6 failing but there must
be a host of them in Germany (Taxi`s) & USA with prodigious mileages ?
I very much doubt that M-B will do anything about it at this stage, if does really become prevalent.
From my perspective, I would favour removing the butterflies & plugging the
manifolds together with the EGR bypass & software revision to fool the motor
side of things.
What do you think ?
Splitpin
My car is similar age & mileage & I have gone through two seals,now with the modified one currently fitted.
My wife drives it 90% of the time so it only gets properly exercised when I
get hold of it.
I note that Alex Crowe has got a modification under way for the EGR but not
for the W211 yet.
I have also read that someone has made a DIY plate placed over the shutoff
motor to deflect the oil seepage away from it.
Olly`s advice that he has already had to renew circa 20 cases of worn butterfly linkages would indicate that this will become an integrated problem.
I have not seen many reports of the post facelift V6 failing but there must
be a host of them in Germany (Taxi`s) & USA with prodigious mileages ?
I very much doubt that M-B will do anything about it at this stage, if does really become prevalent.
From my perspective, I would favour removing the butterflies & plugging the
manifolds together with the EGR bypass & software revision to fool the motor
side of things.
What do you think ?
Splitpin
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What do you think ?
It's time to setup a remanufacturing facility for these manifolds...
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I think you have just realised why Lawrence and I want the square root of feck all to do with his food bill !
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Commiserations Steve, that is a hefty bill to face.
My car is similar age & mileage & I have gone through two seals,now with the modified one currently fitted.
My wife drives it 90% of the time so it only gets properly exercised when I
get hold of it.
I note that Alex Crowe has got a modification under way for the EGR but not
for the W211 yet.
I have also read that someone has made a DIY plate placed over the shutoff
motor to deflect the oil seepage away from it.
Olly`s advice that he has already had to renew circa 20 cases of worn butterfly linkages would indicate that this will become an integrated problem.
I have not seen many reports of the post facelift V6 failing but there must
be a host of them in Germany (Taxi`s) & USA with prodigious mileages ?
I very much doubt that M-B will do anything about it at this stage, if does really become prevalent.
From my perspective, I would favour removing the butterflies & plugging the
manifolds together with the EGR bypass & software revision to fool the motor
side of things.
What do you think ?
Splitpin
Can you direct me in the area of the DIY plate to protect the motor. I fully agree this problem would go away completely with
1. Swirl flap removal.
2. linkage removal
3. EGR disablement/blanking
4. software revision to motor
5. Mapping
Alex Crow has done the I6 and I5 engines. Even with EGR removal swirl flaps and that DIY plate would not be the end of the world but I rather fancy the whole lot.
I hate to say, your car may need a manifold at some stage, mine was very gummed up and worn.
I too was on a modified seal. This is motor number 3, seal 3 (2nd was modified) and manifold number 2. I'm on 82k miles.
IIRC the facelifted cars have exactly the same engine, IIRC its the 350cdi on the 204/212/221/207 that may be different. I wouldn't expect a facelifted car to fare any better
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Very common in "BMW circles". Garage I use says they do a lot of 320d's, but they have a more serious flap issue than the Mercedes range.
No-one has done it for a Mercedes V6CDi but I'd love to have this done if I have the car and this manifold goes, which it will -maybe just not in the time I have this car.
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Just change it for a Skoda Superb...
No problems at all and only 25% depreciation in a full year.
Skoda Superb Estate: Fourth report | Long-term tests | Auto Express
No problems at all and only 25% depreciation in a full year.
Skoda Superb Estate: Fourth report | Long-term tests | Auto Express
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Is this issue a diesel-only one ?
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At £14,085 still a tad dear, nice big car and ideal for touring and camping holidays which is what I really use the car for.
Not sure on the VAG common rails how good they are long term. Could be worse than this. If it were a PD I'd have more faith.
Not sure on the VAG common rails how good they are long term. Could be worse than this. If it were a PD I'd have more faith.
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I do not want a petrol car. Not on what I choose to afford on motoring costs and I've worked out, my fuel is only £1000 behind the depreciation. It would be about £4000 ahead of my depreciation bill if I drove a petrol engined car of any decent power, so its a non starter.
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I was only asking if it's diesel only or if it also affects petrol turbos too ...
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Any common rail VW we've had in the company were in excess of 150k with no major bills.
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Don't know re MB turbo petrols. Not many about, more now and I would expect to see problems with them, just different ones.
Guess then the VAG CR's are ok. I know for a fact their V6 TDi has similar manifold issues due to EGR and costs are on a par with the Mercedes to fix. I checked the Audi forum you see as I nearly plumped for an A6 a while back. BMW's too have the problem, but manifolds are flap removal are available for them.
Guess then the VAG CR's are ok. I know for a fact their V6 TDi has similar manifold issues due to EGR and costs are on a par with the Mercedes to fix. I checked the Audi forum you see as I nearly plumped for an A6 a while back. BMW's too have the problem, but manifolds are flap removal are available for them.
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Time for a BMW 535D steve.
BMW : 535d M sport fully loaded price reduced
or if you want to give MB another chance and just put it down to bad luck then here is a very nice W211 E320CDi, same colour as my one.
Beck Evans : Mercedes-Benz E Class E320 Cdi Sport Auto AMG KIT WHEELS VAT Q CAR
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Not sure I want another 7g either to be honest, which does restrict me to 4 pot dervs if I change, but I really don't care, I really do not like 7g either, I'd really have to test the example to make sure it was ok, as mine is crap and slow changing and horrific 1st thing in the morning - I suspect I am on the verge of "valve body replacement" but until it lets go, I won't bother.
Don't like the E60, waiting for F10 prices to drop or a E90 if I went for a BMW. I could see me in an F10 or E90 though
Lovely car Josef that E320cdi and I love the colour but I'm in the shed unless I do "happen" to sell it, which given my outlay unless I got a strong price, I really won't do.
Don't like the E60, waiting for F10 prices to drop or a E90 if I went for a BMW. I could see me in an F10 or E90 though
Lovely car Josef that E320cdi and I love the colour but I'm in the shed unless I do "happen" to sell it, which given my outlay unless I got a strong price, I really won't do.
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No body want to buy a car these days, you've spend allot on it, so if you keep it then atleast you know you've maintained it well etc..
Just saw that BMW in the add is CAT D...run away! but 535D is very nice, i've been driving the F10 535D and that's lovely 8 speed gearbox
Just saw that BMW in the add is CAT D...run away! but 535D is very nice, i've been driving the F10 535D and that's lovely 8 speed gearbox
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Steve.
As you have said, most of the cars troublesome bits (apart from springs) have been dealt with.
Would you be happy buying another time-bomb ?
As you have said, most of the cars troublesome bits (apart from springs) have been dealt with.
Would you be happy buying another time-bomb ?
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Don't like the E60, waiting for F10 prices to drop or a E90 if I went for a BMW. I could see me in an F10 or E90 though
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I could see myself in a white F10 535D.
My ideal everyday car;
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One other one Steven. 7g.
I'm not a fan of it, so whenever I do change the car (might not be another 2 years) it may well not be a 7g.
However, I will be in her tomorrow and hopefully all will be well with "the shed".
I'm not a fan of it, so whenever I do change the car (might not be another 2 years) it may well not be a 7g.
However, I will be in her tomorrow and hopefully all will be well with "the shed".
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So the shed isn't ready
Mercedes originally sent my specialist the wrong manifold. They've now sent the right one and it uses self tapping screws. The other one didn't. They've not sent the screws now.
There apparently is a modified manifold and charge filter that goes on, is this true? Mine is one of the first V6CDi's
Anyway, I've got out of bed an hour early for nowt, not due in work until 12.
Mercedes originally sent my specialist the wrong manifold. They've now sent the right one and it uses self tapping screws. The other one didn't. They've not sent the screws now.
There apparently is a modified manifold and charge filter that goes on, is this true? Mine is one of the first V6CDi's
Anyway, I've got out of bed an hour early for nowt, not due in work until 12.
