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[JBD]

Is JBD still posting?

Seen a tweet from MBUK this morning saying the A Class now ships with CarPlay. Any news on when the rest of us can expect a software update mate?

Thanks

It's a £250 option from December production. I believe there is a retrofit option in development, but there's no news on when it will be available or for how much.

 

[SG94]

Cheers mate.
Think MB need to be careful here. One of the reasons I chose this car over the others on my list was we were told the new C Class would get CarPlay. Only after my order went in were we told it had been delayed. I for one would not be happy if they expect more money for it now.
:-/

 

[JBD]

Cheers mate.
Think MB need to be careful here. One of the reasons I chose this car over the others on my list was we were told the new C Class would get CarPlay. Only after my order went in were we told it had been delayed. I for one would not be happy if they expect more money for it now.
:-/

Who told you it would be available for c class? I'm sorry to tell you, it won't be. I was talking about cars like A class.
The system in the c class is older and it's not compatible. I've been told it won't arrive in c class until the facelift model

 

[edstrom76]

Who told you it would be available for c class? I'm sorry to tell you, it won't be. I was talking about cars like A class.
The system in the c class is older and it's not compatible. I've been told it won't arrive in c class until the facelift model

What about the CLS (the FL model, FY15 -onwards with NTG5)?

 

[maha]

Ok here is what I would like to ask, why is ABC so so unreliable. It just randomnly brakes for no reason even when the car is just parked up or sitting in the drive way. It makes beautiful cars a stresfful experience to own.

 

[gIzzE]

Who told you it would be available for c class? I'm sorry to tell you, it won't be. I was talking about cars like A class.
The system in the c class is older and it's not compatible. I've been told it won't arrive in c class until the facelift model

It was advertised as having Carplay for quite some while, then it was suddenly dropped.

The demo car for Carplay was also a W205, at the Geneva Motorshow 2014, they said it was coming with the car. Then they said it was delayed and would come as an update.

 

[Carrsey]

Quick Agility question.

Just looking on the MB website at current offers.
As an example a C220d AMG line £359 a month (36mth).

Do monthly payments alter dramatically if 24 or 48mth is chosen.?

Just after a general idea to see if its worth a shorter or longer term..

 

[gIzzE]

Do you want to keep the car at the end?
Are you going to pay the final payment or throw the keys back?

Often makes little difference to the monthlies, but it is also a very expensive way to be in a new car if you have no intention of keeping it for the long haul.

 

[gIzzE]

Just looked, that c220d AMG Line agility plan over 36 months is £17500, or £487 a month.
They are saying it will be worth £17k at the end, I would guess that is about right, certainly not going to be worth £22k where you would see your deposit back.

Contract hiring that same car is £2600 down and then £289 a month.
So £12700 over the same period or £352 a month.
Up it to 48 months and it is £16100 or £333 a month.

Contract hire makes more difference on term length as the initial payment is your first month, you have to divide that by the term length to get overall cost.


Us this site to get an idea of where the deal can be price wise...

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/business/car-contract-hire-and-leasing/mercedes-benz/c-class/

 

[Carrsey]

Do you want to keep the car at the end?
Are you going to pay the final payment or throw the keys back?

Often makes little difference to the monthlies, but it is also a very expensive way to be in a new car if you have no intention of keeping it for the long haul.

Possibly keep it at end of term, however at the moment just looking at the different options.

My thought was if I spec it up to a nice level, at least if you have it for 48mth you get a bit more use out of the extras, unlike only having it for 24mth then someone else get the benefit.

 

[gIzzE]

If you want to keep it long term then maybe don't do a PCP?

I tend to do mine on a straight refinance if keeping it long term, 72 month straight repayment. I know 6 years sounds like a lot, but I prefer to know at month 36 or month 48 that if I want to keep it I just keep paying for 2 years more and it is mine, I don't have to worry about finding £17000 or £12000 or whatever the final payment may be.


The C220d AMG Line with auto 'box and the Premium Plus pack is £32k from most brokers.
So a saving of £6k.

With your £5000 down that you would pay on Agility, you would pay £430 a month with a straight repayment, so more money each month, but better to own it after 6 years than get to year 4 and have nothing, or have to find £12000.

Actually, without the prem plus pack it is £28800, and £382 a month, so £20 a month more but yours at year 6.

 

[Carrsey]

So short term - Lease
Long term - Straight finance

Is there any advantage to PCP at all..

 

[chardonbleu]

It was advertised as having Carplay for quite some while, then it was suddenly dropped.

The demo car for Carplay was also a W205, at the Geneva Motorshow 2014, they said it was coming with the car. Then they said it was delayed and would come as an update.

I am learning to simply ignore whatever MB promise.

Another example - anyone remember the Apple Watch app announcement, to launch "this Fall"?
Mercedes-Benz has an Apple Watch app, too

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/me...z-to-introduce-new-app-for-apple-watch-video/
I now have an Apple Watch, and I will shortly have a GLC with Comand Online, but no app launch...

PS MB main dealer nearest me is still claiming CarPlay coming soon as an update for current GLCs. Mind you they talk a lot of demonstrable nonsense.

 

[grober]

It was advertised as having Carplay for quite some while, then it was suddenly dropped.

The demo car for Carplay was also a W205, at the Geneva Motorshow 2014, they said it was coming with the car. Then they said it was delayed and would come as an update.

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And this
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/09/ios-8-3-beta-arrives-with-wireless-carplay-support/
and this
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/car-tech/apple-carplay-1246127/review

 

[gIzzE]

So short term - Lease
Long term - Straight finance

Is there any advantage to PCP at all..

Yeah, there can be, depends on the car and the deal.

Speak with JBD rather than looking at the generic quotes from Mercedes UK, he can tweak the discount, apr and the final payment, PCP works well when the residual is high and you have no intention of keeping the car.


I was considering a new BMW 340i M-Sport Touring, in deep metallic red with individual extended ivory leather, nav prof, internet, media, adaptive LED lights, Harman surround and a few other toys. PCP was by far the best option, car was £42,000 after lots of contributions etc. £5000 discount bringing it to £34k and a very good residual value of £19k after 48 months it worked out at £330 a month with £3k down.

Depends how you view a car I guess? Is it a disposable that you replace every 3 - 5 years, or do you want to keep it for 10 years or until it is no longer financially sound to?

 

[grober]

As an issue its interesting because car buyers are now entering the fraught arena of "software that does exactly what it says on the tin" familiar to all users of Microsoft Windows systems where its not all " the plug and play" like it says in the advertised specification. If you were to buy a car with only 3 wheels instead of 4 as advertised people would obviously refuse to pay for it but if you buy a car with non functional or missing peripheral software what then? Then whose fault is it-- Apple or Mercedes ? Rumoured its proposed incorporation in Mercedes cars was heavily influenced by the American market where iPhone use is widespread any marriage between two corporations who both jealously guard their intellectual property was almost bound to end in tears. I would suspect the stumbling block is not technical but one of licencing issues or limited functionality.

 

[JBD]

Quick Agility question.

Just looking on the MB website at current offers.
As an example a C220d AMG line £359 a month (36mth).

Do monthly payments alter dramatically if 24 or 48mth is chosen.?

Just after a general idea to see if its worth a shorter or longer term..

It does make a difference, but it depends on what you put down. on the campaign offer, I'd say about £30-40 per month if you go to 24

 

[JBD]

What about the CLS (the FL model, FY15 -onwards with NTG5)?

It's arriving from December production

 

[SG94]

Who told you it would be available for c class? I'm sorry to tell you, it won't be. I was talking about cars like A class.
The system in the c class is older and it's not compatible. I've been told it won't arrive in c class until the facelift model

Sales guy, and to be fair to him, all the promo brochures, leaflets and videos available at the time. The W205 was supposed to be the car to get it at launch.

Even Apples own CarPlay promo shoes it in a W205.

If this is now not the case, I can see some trouble coming. Especially given it absolutely does run on the W205 system, MB's own promos and various 'hackers' have shown this to be the case.

:-/

 

[stagwcb]

SLK 250 CDI blue effiency AMG Sport

Hi,

I am just about to buy a slk 250 CDI . I have been told that from Spring 2014 the engine had some updates done to the top end of the engine and injectors . This has supposedly made the engine a lot quieter . Is this true? And how do I tell this engine apart from the older version and do you know dates or starting engine numbers .

Many thanks.

Michael.