Winter tyres in the wet and lots of torque...

[A210AMG]

Hello


So today was my first proper little drive of my car having taken the large and wide current tyres off and putting on the original small (16") alloys and winter tyres.

The tyres are Conitinental WinterConti 225/55/16


Today it was damp and at a dual carrageway set of lights I gave the bus some beans....car just moved sideways traction light fixed on and gradually with traction light on and still wiggling a little I move forward....fairly quickly


Quite entertaining, but Never have I had that with the wider / larger tyres. Traction light would flicker now and again but never have I wiggled....

Is this because of the compound of Winters over summer?


Anyway doubt I that with so much vrroom it will probably wear then down quickly..

 

[Alscoob]

I noticed the same but am putting it down to the fact that my winters are not 'run in' yet as only done a few hundred miles on them... in saying that the torque would spin up the rears in the damp with the summers on aswell especially as the roads are all a bit greasey at the mo.

 

[grober]

Hello


So today was my first proper little drive of my car having taken the large and wide current tyres off and putting on the original small (16") alloys and winter tyres.

The tyres are Conitinental WinterConti 225/55/16


Today it was damp and at a dual carrageway set of lights I gave the bus some beans....car just moved sideways traction light fixed on and gradually with traction light on and still wiggling a little I move forward....fairly quickly


Quite entertaining, but Never have I had that with the wider / larger tyres. Traction light would flicker now and again but never have I wiggled....

Is this because of the compound of Winters over summer?

No its because you haven't learned throttle control yet.

 

[A210AMG]

^ I did just plant it to be fair...

but I've never 'moved' sideways with the summers....

 

[Igurisu]

Had my first experience of snow driving on winters last weekend, although it was on the wifes MX5, not my CLK (both RWD). I was very pleased with the grip, acceleration and braking, this was on 50mm of snow that had frozen overnight. I could make the back step out but had to hit the loud pedal pretty hard. In "normal" driving the traction was great and I have peace of mind with the wife using the car during the winter.

 

[Charles Morgan]

New tyres, smaller section so less grip, greasy road. I suspect nothing to do with winter tyres at all!

 

[whitenemesis]

My winter Kumhos tend to squirm a bit on clear tarmac. I put it down to the greater flexibility og the tread blocks. Ultimate grip is still very impressive though. Mine are the same section as my summers.

 

[st13phil]

I've been driving on my Conti TS830P's for the last 6 weeks or so and am pretty impressed.

At higher ambient temperatures (say, 8c +), I can definitely tell that braking performance on wet roads is marginally worse than with the OEM Pirelli P7's fitted, but as the temperature drops towards zero the grip seems to be better. Last Friday we had a dusting of snow and the car was very sure-footed - much more so than other cars I witnessed slithering about.

I suspect the OP's loss of traction was caused by a combination of a heavy foot, new tyres that aren't yet run in, higher ambient temperature and a greasy road.

 

[A210AMG]

^ Your probably right,

Size 11 planted to floor... in fact I've just thought I have not driven this car with the Brabus D6 fitted with the smaller wheels / tyres so maybe that added. It was greasy though so combination of me being heavy footed = probably the cause ooops

 

[jumperjohn]

^ Your probably right,

Size 11 planted to floor... in fact I've just thought I have not driven this car with the Brabus D6 fitted with the smaller wheels / tyres so maybe that added. It was greasy though so combination of me being heavy footed = probably the cause ooops

Hi. Don't worry, the winter tyres get a lot more grip once you put a few miles on them. I remember slipping a bit when my tyres were new and thinking what the hell! But they do become super sticky, around 500 miles for me though!

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

new tyres, smaller section so less grip, greasy road. I suspect nothing to do with winter tyres at all!

+1

 

[BTB 500]

Continental say with their tyres you are better off on summer ones down to 2C (rather than the 7C that's been widely quoted for years). Obviously there'll be some variation between makes, but with the current mild weather (13C today in London) you should definitely be expecting a bit less grip/traction with winters on, even if they were the same size.

 

[Geoff A]

Put my winters on last week (Kumho) and noticed a dramatic difference in ride quality - it's like riding on sponges from the softer rubber compound now under the car (and yes, they are properly inflated).
I have also noticed a 2-3mpg drop in fuel economy too, which I have put down to the increased rolling resistance from the soft rubber.

Overall, I can say I'm not yet impressed and I haven't been on any snow yet, but I know they'll save my bacon when it does happen. Bring it on....

 

[A210AMG]

mmm I only got 38mpg... but then it was a mic of town / open road / stop start driving

 

[Lagerlout]

In my experience you won't see full grip until you have 1000 miles on winter tyres.

It's too warm down here anyway for winter tyres, 11 degrees today!

 

[Dieselman]

Can I publicly thank all those drivers that have splashed out to buy, then fitted, Winter tyres.

I'm really enjoying the warmer weather and dry roads.

 

[Mercy1]

Can I publicly thank all those drivers that have splashed out to buy, then fitted, Winter tyres.

I'm really enjoying the warmer weather and dry roads.

The pleasure is all ours DM - or will be in the twinkling of a snowflake....

 

[Dieselman]

The pleasure is all ours DM - or will be in the twinkling of a snowflake....

Just make sure you remember to breathe before that happens...

 

[A210AMG]

Can I publicly thank all those drivers that have splashed out to buy, then fitted, Winter tyres.

I'm really enjoying the warmer weather and dry roads.

I really don't understand your attitude to these tyres? We all know you don't agree with them and think we are all wasting our money. You have in differnet ways mentioned this several times over many different threads..WHY? say it once and leave it....your getting to be like a dog with a bone.

you should change your name to Grumpy Dieselman its getting booooring now.


PS, looking forward to testing mine in the Alps soon

 

[Shude]

My winter contis were excellent in the snow over the weekend