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Winter tyres in the wet and lots of torque...

Another warm (if wet) day Guys.

Thanks.... :D

Strange weather. This morning there was ice all over and a car upside down in a field after having gone through a hedge. I wonder if they thought that we were having a spot of mild weather and got caught out?


Still not had time to look at my links to see how good winter tyres can perform on ice? I bet the driver of the above car wished they had.
 
Strange weather. This morning there was ice all over and a car upside down in a field after having gone through a hedge. I wonder if they thought that we were having a spot of mild weather and got caught out?

Nope, they were probably just driving like clowns and going too fast. Cars leave the road in all sorts of temperatures.
What speed exactly was the car doing when it left the road and what was the road temperature at the time? Why did all the other vehicles not leave the road?


On my bike rides a couple of years ago I saw a Fiesta upside down at the side of a lane and on a different day a Pug 406 in a field where it hit a tree stump that ripped everything, including wheel assemblies, etc, off the underside
Good job the tree had been cut down.
 
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Not very nice here at the mo. Overcast and only 7c, significantly lower in the wind. Brrr!
 
Please, tell us which countries you might believe this to be the case. People always have the option of snow chains, althougb i wouldnt recommend those sock things.

It was not intended to be taken absolutely literally, but every country or perhaps state seems to have its own rules regarding the use of winter studded tyres that regulate the period, number,size, and material composition of the studs used.
http://www.milexautocare.com/steering/steer6.htm and Canadian Laws for Studded Tires | eHow.com and http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/continental/transport/general/hidden/winter_tyre_guide/guide_en.pdf

Many countries ban studded tyres from vehicles that are more than 7.5T.

Where studded tyres are used, the period that they are legal ( if there is one)coincides with the coldest weather months. This is because as road temperature rises asphalt becomes softer and is more easily damaged than when the road is frozen.

Where there is a requirement, it is often equally satisfied by the use of an approved winter tyre or the temporary use of snow chains. In contrast studded tyres use is never compulsory and their useage often restricted.

Of course in the UK you can only use them where the road will not be damaged, and that is rarely possible in most parts of the UK for most of the time. But in extreme weather I did once see them fitted to a Mini in Aberdeen some years ago.

The other problem is that your average UK tyre fitting stations do not have studs nor the equipment to fit studs in the first place.

I use snow chains sometimes. I hate the things. But when you are stuck with your car jammed with snow underneath, a bit of digging and a set of snow chains will nearly always free you.. My tip is to make sure you have a warm pair of gloves before you even think of putting the chains on, unless frostbite floats your boat!
 
Nope, they were probably just driving like clowns and going too fast. Cars leave the road in all sorts of temperatures.
What speed exactly was the car doing when it left the road and what was the road temperature at the time? Why did all the other vehicles not leave the road?

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Sorry I have no idea how fast the car was driving or indeed if the driver was an employee of a circus, or even how many other cars were using the road at the time. Perhaps other drivers could see the tyre marks across the verge, through the hedge etc and slowed down. The temperature at the time we observed the car wreck was 1.5C, but the forecast was for temperatures as low as -3C, and even at 1.5C ice was still on the road.

It appears there is a marked increase in cars leaving the road when there is ice, and one only has to put two and two together. It doesn't take a genius.

In many european countries it is law that cars without winter tyres may not drive on roads covered in ice. Yet in the UK where ice is common, there is no law, and not even a word of advice in the Highway Code.

The only advice given is usually from the Police who advise that only those whose journey is essential should use the roads, which I guess must mean all those not having winter tyres!
 

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