A very tight junction and too much speed.

[welland99]

The signage for this junction indicates a slip road, not an acute turn.

the direction sign before the junction is shown as an arrow pointing to 10:30 of a clock face. That indicates a slip road or shallow junction.

The correct sign would have the arrow pointing at 9:00 of a clock face to indicate a sharp junction.




Just to summarise.

The SatNav and road atlas show this junction to be a shallow lead off, the road signage shows it to be a shallow lead off, the line markings (which shouldn't be there) indicate it is a slip road.

In poor visibility conditions, you can't see it is a right angle turn until you are on the slip road area, which is very late.
Obviously, if you drive like a jock it won't be an issue, as though you will be dying of boredom, you will be saving money on tyres, brakes and fuel...
For normal people...

You're absolutely right. I know what it's like and use this junction 2 or 3 times a year, but it is still a pain. In order to avoid sharp braking, you really have to slow down to a speed that can be a real annoyance for those following too closely. And that can be an encouragement to leave your braking late!

I wonder what the accident stats are like for this junction?

 

[ChrisA]

DM and his Buddy checking out the Goodrich area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uolAwTRjh9I

 

[jamesfuller]

This thread, it disappears for a bit and then you hit the new posts button and its back again. Its like

 

[John Jones Jr]

Is he not pushing up daises...

 

[Dieselman]

Just read all this. For what its worth, I've used that particular junction while driving friends to Goodrich Castle - not a million miles away from me.

The angle of the bend caught me unawares too, but in broad daylight and dry conditions. I felt a bit of a plonker, thinking I'd missed something, but no - it's a nasty little beggar. It really could do with a sharp deviation sign.

But we are talking Forest of Dean territory, here. Things are different. Lovely family though

You're absolutely right. I know what it's like and use this junction 2 or 3 times a year, but it is still a pain. In order to avoid sharp braking, you really have to slow down to a speed that can be a real annoyance for those following too closely. And that can be an encouragement to leave your braking late!

I wonder what the accident stats are like for this junction?

I've just trawled through 32000 posts to see if someone has ever admitted they were wrong.
.

Looks like you can add this thread to the tally of Dieselman isn't wrong posts too.

The only two people to have actually driven this junction have also experienced the same problems. The rest of you are just a bunch of know it all sh!t stirrers, that as normal, know...

As you were.

 

[ChrisA]

What
All of us

Take it for what it is Will, a little banter and a little dig, as some of your posts are on other threads

 

[seven]

Still can't do it!
Your first post was almost there. If you rely on satnav to advise you of how acute a bend is you'll be writing a lot of these.
I can just see the insurance claim form now.......

 

[Troon]

If you're not relying on sat nav, you might be even more taken by surprise. The split-second decision to take, of course, is whether to go for the turn or deliberately miss it and turn around. DM went for the former option and without being there in the car, I'm not going to judge the wisdom of his choice.

I question the wisdom of posting here about it, though...

 

[cb1965]

Looks like you can add this thread to the tally of Dieselman isn't wrong posts too. ��

The only two people to have actually driven this junction have also experienced the same problems. The rest of you are just a bunch of know it all sh!t stirrers, that as normal, know...

As you were.��

No, all three of you need to learn to drive to what you can see.... it really is that simple!

Anyway why not write to the county council responsible for the sigange seeing as you feel they are to blame rather than your own ineptitude and then you can leave the rest of us in peace!

 

[seven]

The rest of you are just a bunch of know it all sh!t stirrers, that as normal, know...

That's not very pleasant, is it?
If you're going to give it you've got to take it!!!

 

[ItalianTuneUp]

Looks like you can add this thread to the tally of Dieselman isn't wrong posts too.

The only two people to have actually driven this junction have also experienced the same problems. The rest of you are just a bunch of know it all sh!t stirrers, that as normal, know...

As you were.

Two people agreeing with your view is hardly scientific proof that you are 'right'. 'Too much speed' in the thread title says a lot.

 

[Dieselman]

Still can't do it!
Your first post was almost there. If you rely on satnav to advise you of how acute a bend is you'll be writing a lot of these.
I can just see the insurance claim form now.......

Why would there be an insurance claim?

As I've already explained several times, once the layout of the junction became apparent I was able to brake to an appropriate speed to take the bend?

The issue, as originally stated is that the junction signage and markings are wrong, so until you progress near to the turn it isn't apparent how tight the turn is.

I appreciate you can't take that on board, but thought I would clarify it once more for those that can.

 

[Dieselman]

Two people agreeing with your view is hardly scientific proof that you are 'right'. 'Too much speed' in the thread title says a lot.

I'm inclined to accept the view of the two other people that have used this junction a number of times, than the stirrers that have never been there, but just want to cause as much aggro as possible.

As said many times, the speed was appropriate for a lead off type junction, but not for one as tight as it is. Irrespective after braking, the speed was appropriate for that also.

I'm definitely out of this thread now. You have had others confirm the junction is "difficult", yet just want to keep on wasting bandwidth and time.

Are you newly retired?

 

[ItalianTuneUp]

I'm inclined to accept the view of the two other people that have used this junction a number of times, than the stirrers that have never been there, but just want to cause as much aggro as possible.

As said many times, the speed was appropriate for a lead off type junction, but not for one as tight as it is. Irrespective after braking, the speed was appropriate for that also.

I'm definitely out of this thread now. You have had others confirm the junction is "difficult", yet just want to keep on wasting bandwidth and time.

Are you newly retired?

Now now, don't throw your toys out of the pram. You seem a little flustered perhaps?

 

[seven]

I'm definitely out of this thread now.

I think I'll join you. It's boring now. Give us another to get our teeth into on a dull Tuesday afternoon.

 

[Meldrew2]

……….I'm going to move on from this thread…………. it will run for at least 200 boring posts…………..

Only 175 so far. Again, DM is Wrong! That's twice he's been wrong this thread alone

 

[ChrisA]

176 now

 

[ChrisA]

oops..... I was wrong 177 & now 178

 

[ItalianTuneUp]

Zzzzzzzzzzzz 179

 

[ChrisA]

One Hundred and Eiiiiiiighty