A very tight junction and too much speed.

[Dieselman]

The "error" is only an error if one assumes it should be a slip road! The end marking indicate the beginning of the junction and by the time one is at that point its fairly obvious its a tight turn.
There are plenty of junctions with that 4-5 car length 'slip' ( for want of a better word) that are clearly that, a junction. One's speed should have been moderated to anticipated the turn.

Nice hindsight and clear daylight viewpoint there. Try it on a dark, windy, rainy night.

By LAW, road signage and markings are meant to indicate junction layout. This ones doesn't.

I am leaving this thread as it will never end, but I won't be here to bother about it.

As you were...

 

[Dieselman]

Seems going to fast is catching,Was It Foggy or were you just relying on a electronic gadget to do your driving eg:satnav or just lost consentration ?

If you had bothered to read the thread, you would know none of the above apply and have already been covered, but then since your post was just to add to the Sh!t stirring, I wouldn't expect you to have read the thread.

I don't normally quote myself, but it seems appropriate.

I have to admit, I do have a knack for routing out Sh!t stirrers...

 

[m2287]

9 pages.... Really?!?!?!

 

[cb1965]

As soon as I saw this thread start up and the OP's username I knew it would only go one way and here we are.

Moral of the story: when you're the resident forum know it all and claim to never ever be wrong about anything don't post about how you nearly crashed due to relying on electronics rather than driving to what you can see

 

[whitenemesis]

Nice hindsight and clear daylight viewpoint there. Try it on a dark, windy, rainy night.

By LAW, road signage and markings are meant to indicate junction layout. This ones doesn't.

I am leaving this thread as it will never end, but I won't be here to bother about it.

As you were...

Pick your toys up on the way out DM.

" dark, windy, rainy night. " Even more reason to moderate your speed. I would have thought an experienced driver such as yourself would have known not to rely on signage! Legal or otherwise.

 

[Dieselman]

As soon as I saw this thread start up and the OP's username I knew it would only go one way and here we are.

Moral of the story: when you're the resident forum know it all and claim to never ever be wrong about anything don't post about how you nearly crashed due to relying on electronics rather than driving to what you can see

Off we go again.

Who said I nearly crashed?

Another to add to the list.

 

[Dieselman]

Pick your toys up on the way out DM.

" dark, windy, rainy night. " Even more reason to moderate your speed. I would have thought an experienced driver such as yourself would have known not to rely on signage! Legal or otherwise.

Blah, Blah.

As already stated I was driving at 50mph in a 70mph limit, slowing for an incorrectly signed and marked junction.
Due to the indications not being legally correct, I had to brake sharply to slow enough to take the turn.

Far from leaving, I'm warming to the challenge now and have certainly learned which members to value.

 

[cb1965]

Off we go again.

Who said I nearly crashed?

Another to add to the list.

Hang on, thought you said you were leaving the thread.

I think rather than wasting your time posting here you'd be better off using it to take a driving refresher course to fill in the skills you are obviously lacking. Practice can't always make up for a lack of talent, but it's better than nothing.

PS Can you post your reg number here so in the unlikely event I see you on the road I can give you a wide berth?

 

[whitenemesis]

Blah, Blah.

As already stated I was driving at 50mph in a 70mph limit, slowing for an incorrectly signed and marked junction.
Due to the indications not being legally correct, I had to brake sharply to slow enough to take the turn.

Far from leaving, I'm warming to the challenge now and have certainly learned which members to value.

Oh dear! Some one dares to argue or perhaps debate a view point different to yours and you get huffy?

So you can dish it out but can't take it?

 

[Dieselman]

Oh dear! Some one dares to argue or perhaps debate a view point different to yours and you get huffy?

So you can dish it out but can't take it?

I've got no problem taking it Peter, but the facts have already been stated many times. You seem to be unable to take those on board in your quest for a witch-hunt.

I don't have a problem with that, just know who you are now. We can all make choices.

 

[Dieselman]

I can give you a wide berth?

That won't be necessary as you aren't the kind of person I will mix with. If we meet at a GTG, you find that to be true.

 

[grumpyoldgit]

I would read those signs as being direction, not indication of a slip road.

 

[cb1965]

That won't be necessary as you aren't the kind of person I will mix with. If we meet at a GTG, you find that to be true.

There's only one thing worse than a bully and that is a bully that can dish it out but can't take it and that describes you perfectly.

Don't worry about the gtg as I already decided the same about you about an hour after joining!

OK I will leave it there as the forum doesn't need any more of this crap really!

 

[whitenemesis]

I've got no problem taking it Peter, but the facts have already been stated many times. You seem to be unable to take those on board in your quest for a witch-hunt.

I don't have a problem with that, just know who you are now. We can all make choices.

Of course you know who I am! We've met many times at GTG. What I have posted here I would say to your face.
There is no witch hunt, just a difference of opinion.

 

[ItalianTuneUp]

This is a graphic example of how one gets to 32,000 posts...I did wonder DM

 

[John Jones Jr]

A '' heart stopping moment'' goes to ''witch-hunt'', really? No matter, even if you are right in your assessment you should call it a day on this thread.

 

[del320]

...I'm going to move on from this thread, it was meant to be a 1 to 2 pager about a surprise junction, but due to the average age on here now being 102 years old and all wearing Halo's, it will run for at least 200 boring posts.

I've noticed the Scotch contingent seem to be vocal on this kind of issue. The only reason they never have any surprises is that they drive so slowly, due to needing to save money on fuel...

Over to you...

...hasn't stopped you droning on for another 16 posts (46 in total - and counting. Easy seen where 32k comes from), trying to defend the indefensible.

From your very own link immediately beyond the derestriction sign...

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In these clear conditions, my mark one eyeball can plainly see the juction heading off at right angles. By your own admission, the road was unfamiliar, it was dark and raining. Despite this, you ploughed on, ultimately relying on the alleged braking powers of an ancient frogmobile - with one brand new tyre.

You also state you were going too fast and, as with all posts where you are wrong or have lost the arguement, you bluster and resort to abuse - scotch and jocks - whatever they are. (perhaps a reference to your underwear?)

You continue to ignore the facts as already mentioned that the road is not an engineered dual carriageway. You had passed similarly signed junctions for a hotel and diner, laybys, bus stops, warnings of tractors, right turns across the central reservation and finally the fact that your road was prohibited to vehicles over 7.5 tonnes.

Yet, you were foolish enough to assume that you could peel off whilst barely slowing down.

You have a lot to learn...

 

[markjay]

I am assuming that the oddly-marked junction was marked in this way to allow turning drivers to slow down off the main road rather than come to an almost stand-still in the middle of the slow lane before taking the sharp turn.

And extending the turning lane further back would have confused drivers even more by allowing them to continue travelling at some speed alongside the main road before hitting the unexpected sharp turn.

But some light-reflecting arrows on the far side of the 'slip road' would have helped.

 

[Deleted member 55947]

A '' heart stopping moment'' goes to ''witch-hunt'', really? No matter, even if you are right in your assessment you should call it a day on this thread.

Nonsense, there's at least another 10 pages left in this thread

 

[martyz]

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