C350e anyone considering one?

[haworthlloyd]

It crap all over the golf gtd I had last eddentially. I'm never needing more power and it's comfortable the whole way 0 to 20 with the electric is awesome

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Thanks.

I get the impression that due to instant torque the 0-20 ish is v quick and then it tails off somewhat at the higher revs.

 

[noobmonkey]

Not really. The electric carries on. I took my mates golf R from 40-60 he wasn't expecting that!

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[haworthlloyd]

Interesting. I had a new s3 hatch for a while, dsg box. Only 300bhp but it seemed quicker than 300bhp if you know what I mean. If a c class can keep up with that between 40-60 then that's impressive.

Are there any official 30-70mph stats on this car?

 

[N_Jepson]

I'd say performance is similar to my remapped Audi 3.0 TDI. The petrol engine isn't that's smooth as other web pages have said. If it had been a little V6 I think the car would have been so much better.

S and S+ offer much improved throttle pick up whilst the gear changes aren't the smoothest.

It's a really great car ... with two very distinct personalities


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[haworthlloyd]

Useful, thanks. Strange that the engine isn't smooth - a lot of petrol 2 litres in modern cars are smooth so strange this one isn't.

 

[mbboyracer]

hawthornlloyd, performance wise it goes like sh1t of a shiny shovel .

hawthornlloyd, isn't that a comparative enough description?! Trust these guys; this car is much more than a 2 litre runabout. Don't expect full racing performance but it will please you in everyday bursts of power for overtaking or at the lights

 

[haworthlloyd]

hawthornlloyd, isn't that a comparative enough description?! Trust these guys; this car is much more than a 2 litre runabout. Don't expect full racing performance but it will please you in everyday bursts of power for overtaking or at the lights

Not really, I recall a friends dad once telling me how his daughters saxo 1.5d went like 'xxxx off a shovel' and then he got in my m5 and accepted that the saxo actually wasn't that fast.

So many people claim their car is fast but without context it means nothing, a golf Gti is fast to someone used to driving a 1.0 polo and is slow to someone coming from a 991 turbo.

I can get the 0-60 as 5.9 but so its things such as 30-70 and 50-80 and so on that matter. I've been in many cars with a quick 0-60, a bike engined kit car for example but they're pretty slow above 70. I've also been in cars with a slow ish 0-60 but once rolling they're pretty quick.

Hope that explains my logic

 

[N_Jepson]

Agreed

It's a very useful amount of performance for day-to-day driving. You won't be disappointed (and that's from a 911 turbo driver)


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[ryeltep]

Not really, I recall a friends dad once telling me how his daughters saxo 1.5d went like 'xxxx off a shovel' and then he got in my m5 and accepted that the saxo actually wasn't that fast.



So many people claim their car is fast but without context it means nothing, a golf Gti is fast to someone used to driving a 1.0 polo and is slow to someone coming from a 991 turbo.



I can get the 0-60 as 5.9 but so its things such as 30-70 and 50-80 and so on that matter. I've been in many cars with a quick 0-60, a bike engined kit car for example but they're pretty slow above 70. I've also been in cars with a slow ish 0-60 but once rolling they're pretty quick.



Hope that explains my logic

I have just had a 330d X3 and this thing has as much pulling power across the speed range as that straight 6 diesel. It is very impressive. The top speed is about 150 so it keeps pulling to way beyond legal limits.

 

[mbboyracer]

Hope that explains my logic

Not really (to coin a phrase!). But firstly, please excuse getting spelling of your handle wrong.

But if the 0-60 time is not enough of a guide for everyday motoring, then I'm sure that the Mercedes Tech people would provide figures for the rate of change of acceleration through the speed range. They will have such figures but are not published because they will have no marketing value and would not be comparable to the figures given by other manufacturers. The people on the Mercedes.me Site are very helpful.

If you have such data for your "dream car", you will then be able to make a comparison.

 

[haworthlloyd]

Not really (to coin a phrase!). But firstly, please excuse getting spelling of your handle wrong.

But if the 0-60 time is not enough of a guide for everyday motoring, then I'm sure that the Mercedes Tech people would provide figures for the rate of change of acceleration through the speed range. They will have such figures but are not published because they will have no marketing value and would not be comparable to the figures given by other manufacturers. The people on the Mercedes.me Site are very helpful.

If you have such data for your "dream car", you will then be able to make a comparison.

No problem, I'm trying to find info on other c350e performance stats, could anyone help?

It's not the end of the world p, just out of interest more than anything

 

[N_Jepson]

I'll dig out my vbox and do a couple of runs ...


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[Spunk1e]

No problem, I'm trying to find info on other c350e performance stats, could anyone help?

It's not the end of the world p, just out of interest more than anything

I've come from an Audi A5 2 ltr petrol 211 bhp quattro which was quick enough, the c350e I would say was as quick on acceleration but doesn't handle due to the extra weight. I've already had a couple of hairy moments on the B roads!
But overall I prefer the merc over the Audi - as someone said it's a car with 2 personalities - you can be floating along on the air suspension one moment then with a flick of a switch you're revving the **** off it!!

 

[wrighty senior]

I've come from an Audi A5 2 ltr petrol 211 bhp quattro which was quick enough, the c350e I would say was as quick on acceleration but doesn't handle due to the extra weight. I've already had a couple of hairy moments on the B roads!

I don't want to sound pretentious but do you mean handling, or road holding or both?
RWD will always feel different to FWD. The main problem with the C350e is the torque to the rear wheels is supplied in 'lumps' which means it breaks traction quite easily making it a bit tail happy. Although this feels a bit worrying at first you will find that the traction control takes care of everything and you can just keep your foot down. I think the chassis is much better than the Audi and the car offers better 'handling'. It is hard to be sure but I expect you could probably hustle the Merc along the B-roads in a quicker time than you could have with the Audi - the actual speed of the Merc is surprisingly good and sometimes it is hard to judge if you aren't driving different cars back to back. I find the only problem in driving the Merc fast is judging heavy braking - that is when the extra weight and the energy harvesting makes it hard to get the best out of the car.

 

[noobmonkey]

i think from reading the above, and with my own limited knowledge on performance cars. (Golf GTD probably being the closest sport'ish thing i've driven for a while).

The c350e Is not a sports car - Hence the discussion around the boaty like handling (much better in sport mode i must admit) - however that is the pulling factor for me. I needed a v comfotable car, and loved the speed onf the GTD was more than enough forme.

SO i'm pleasantly suprised and happy with just how much power right through the range the c350e has.

The gears can be jerky. (more so in Sport+ mode, where i find my self using the paddles). In cormfort mode i rarely notice it, as the car pushes you to drive carefully, it loves a good coast, and the brakes do feel very odd.... I've only got the 17's, and you really do notice the regenerative breaking when you hot the breaks. This means (to me at least) that if you really do want to break hard, you have to hit it much harder then some other cars i've driven. - Although, again, not really an issue, as i didnt by this as a sports car.

I'd take the slight wallow round bends as a great benefit of the Air suspension, especially if you live near any speed bumps.

The engines power is enough throughout the range to put a smile on most faces. (And the sat nav system seems to make enough people cry! - but no more on that!).


Its a truly comfortable car with not bad handling and acceleration to match 250-300 BHP cars in some aspects and definitely nearer in a straight line. Its not a porche killer, but your back will feel much better after a ride in the c350e for 4 hours, then it would in any of the S3's GTI's, M3's etc etc

also... you'll never tire of pulling out of a parking space and almost hitting a pedestrian every time as they honestly don't hear you coming! - you learn to get a 6th sense about these things

Its very hard to compare the PHEV style cars accelleration and torque in numbers that match normal cars. I'd really suggest asking if you could test drive, or see if a member here has one locally and can take you for a spin.

I ordered mine blind, and apart from a few minor issues, its been a joy.

Oddly enough, one thing that others disliked in the past i've found ironically useful. The boot space...
That lip where the battery stops and the boot deepens a bit, is an excellent sized space for the weekly shop, and it holds the bags v comfortabley with no spillage

 

[derekthetree]

Oddly enough, one thing that others disliked in the past i've found ironically useful. The boot space...
That lip where the battery stops and the boot deepens a bit, is an excellent sized space for the weekly shop, and it holds the bags v comfortabley with no spillage

+1 for this, that small step is so useful to stop stuff sloshing around

My other half just got a 320d 190ps as her lease car.
It has lots of torque but can't maintain the acceleration like the 350e

and also leads me onto the other big plus, no canal boat noises, mine seems so quiet after being in it.

 

[mbboyracer]

Oddly enough, one thing that others disliked in the past i've found ironically useful. The boot space...
That lip where the battery stops and the boot deepens a bit, is an excellent sized space for the weekly shop, and it holds the bags v comfortabley with no spillage

...and you'll have discovered the useful but shallow storage space that you can access by levering up that lip with something that doesn't mark the carpet (I use an ice-scraper). The cover is hinged about 35-40cm back from the front. This is for the Estate, of course, but maybe read across to the saloon. Worth checking.

 

[derekthetree]

...and you'll have discovered the useful but shallow storage space that you can access by levering up that lip with something that doesn't mark the carpet (I use an ice-scraper). The cover is hinged about 35-40cm back from the front. This is for the Estate, of course, but maybe read across to the saloon. Worth checking.

I did this on my saloon, it takes you straight into the battery gubbins!

 

[Goldngin]

Mine was due 5th April, they've said its left the factory and arriving in the dealer 6th May with my colleagues due in 9th May. His was only delayed a few days from the original estimate. So I am assuming delivery on week commencing 9th may, like those blue highlights but happy I won't be getting the plug in badge.

Mine was built on the 9/4, collected from dealer 22/4, I found out (late on in the process) that the dealers have a 'General Information commission statement' which had all the key dates/ timelines for the vehicle.

 

[mbboyracer]

Mine was built on the 9/4, collected from dealer 22/4, I found out (late on in the process) that the dealers have a 'General Information commission statement' which had all the key dates/ timelines for the vehicle.

I think the data you refer to is on the "0ASIS Vehicle Enquiry" Site:

http://53.253.253.29/oasis/default.aspx

I'm not sure anyone can access this site; you may have to approach it from another authorised site or an internal server.

My dealer gave me a copy of the five-page report with a full description of every detail of my order and the dates of key events. My car turned up two weeks earlier than forecast on Oasis, I'm glad to say.