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[GeeJayW]

I have mixed views.

Yes - in general being open is a good thing. It's surprising sometimes to think you are the only person or family that you now of dealing with an issue - and then learn that it is more widespread.

But.

My view is that we have issues like Autism, ADHD, and Dyslexia where there are bandwagons that kick off where everybody seems to have it and has to talk about it - and the risk is that those with less of a voice and who have more substantial issues are effectively pushed out of sight.

That is a good point

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I have mixed views.

Yes - in general being open is a good thing. It's surprising sometimes to think you are the only person or family that you now of dealing with an issue - and then learn that it is more widespread.

But.

My view is that we have issues like Autism, ADHD, and Dyslexia where there are bandwagons that kick off where everybody seems to have it and has to talk about it - and the risk is that those with less of a voice and who have more substantial issues are effectively pushed out of sight.

I suspect many of those things have always been prevalent but those affected were diagnosed and it wasn’t the done thing to talk about it.

 

[Dryce]

I suspect many of those things have always been prevalent but those affected were diagnosed and it wasn’t the done thing to talk about it.

A family member from Asia once commented to me that 'special needs' seemed to be a UK problem and not an issue in Asia. I then started listing a few family members in the extended family in Asia who I thought had issues. It's just that they are not classified and nobody admits or talks - or there is complete denial.

But I would add that I think culture also has an impact on progression. If you are part of a family where there is a lot of human/personal interaction and no help then people on the less serious part of any 'spectrum' may get some implicit extended family support benefits along with a sort of sink or swim effect.

 

[TC350]

I suspect many of those things have always been prevalent but those affected were diagnosed and it wasn’t the done thing to talk about it.

I think it was more a case of people with issues not talking about it and thus not diagnosed.

Depending on the extent of the issue, many would just get on with their lives whilst silently coping with whatever their struggles were. So nobody knew. Without any focussed attention on them, many would work through their issues without harm and often 'come out the other side' after a period - whether that be months or years.

However, there have no doubt been very many others who have kept equally quiet but been unable to cope, falling deeper and deeper into the grips of whatever their condition has been. These are the people who really need help. Identifying them before it's too late is the challenge. Celebrities speaking out may help some people to voice their concerns too.

This is such a fascinating and important subject that I firmly believe that it needs its own thread. It shouldn't be hidden deep inside a motorsport thread where it's highly likely to be missed.

Can anyone in admin move these posts to another thread devoted to the subject? Or should it be kept out of a motoring forum?

 

[GeeJayW]

A family member from Asia once commented to me that 'special needs' seemed to be a UK problem and not an issue in Asia. I then started listing a few family members in the extended family in Asia who I thought had issues. It's just that they are not classified and nobody admits or talks - or there is complete denial.

But I would add that I think culture also has an impact on progression. If you are part of a family where there is a lot of human/personal interaction and no help then people on the less serious part of any 'spectrum' may get some implicit extended family support benefits along with a sort of sink or swim effect.

Just wondering if Japan still has the highest suicide rate?

Mental health issues and physical disabilities are all included within ‘special needs’, and exist across the board. The extent to which are recognised/managed/pandered to/ignored or not varies between different society groups and cultures.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I suspect many of those things have always been prevalent but those affected were diagnosed and it wasn’t the done thing to talk about it.

“Were” should have been “weren’t”.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I think it was more a case of people with issues not talking about it and thus not diagnosed.

I think we’re saying the saying the same thing as autocorrect had changed “weren’t” to “were”. My post should have read:

I suspect many of those things have always been prevalent but those affected weren’t diagnosed and it wasn’t the done thing to talk about it.

 

[GeeJayW]

Checo out, Daniel in…

Red Bull confirm Perez RELEASE ahead of Mexico GP

Read more...

www.gpfans.com

 

[HappytalkAgain]

Checo out, Daniel in…

Red Bull confirm Perez RELEASE ahead of Mexico GP

Read more...

www.gpfans.com

I hope so. But I doubt it.

 

[JHS]

Checo out, Daniel in…

Red Bull confirm Perez RELEASE ahead of Mexico GP

Read more...

www.gpfans.com

I don't read that. A sensational head line without any substance to the story.
This seems to be a theme running through the site.
There is no evidence that RB will fire Checo before his home GP.
There is no evidence that Daniel will replace him.
Just sensationalist rubbish.

 

[GeeJayW]

I don't read that. A sensational head line without any substance to the story.
This seems to be a theme running through the site.
There is no evidence that RB will fire Checo before his home GP.
There is no evidence that Daniel will replace him.
Just sensationalist rubbish.

I don’t think they’ll let him go before the Mexican GP, only that they’ll make the announcement before. That way he gets to bow out in front of his home fans.
There won’t be evidence of Daniel (or anyone else) replacing him until it’s announced, but I would not be surprised in the least to see that happen.

#1106

 

[JHS]

I don’t think they’ll let him go before the Mexican GP, only that they’ll make the announcement before. That way he gets to bow out in front of his home fans.
There won’t be evidence of Daniel (or anyone else) replacing him until it’s announced, but I would not be surprised in the least to see that happen.

#1106

BUT........ the headline says

Red Bull confirm Perez RELEASE ahead of Mexico GP​

RB confirm nothing of the sort.

 

[GeeJayW]

BUT........ the headline says

Red Bull confirm Perez RELEASE ahead of Mexico GP​

RB confirm nothing of the sort.

Good point…

 

[MrGreedy]

And if Daniel thought there was a reasonable chance of this, he wouldn't have been so emotional (I thought holding back tears myself) at his last GP the other day? If it is happening, I get the impression Daniel doesn't know.

 

[HappytalkAgain]

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[neilrr]

neilrr Post #468 Apr 22, 2024

I think RB are cheating somehow & just haven't been caught yet.

Told ya!

US Grand Prix: McLaren boss Zak Brown 'still has questions' about Red Bull device

McLaren Racing chief executive officer Zak Brown says he “still has questions” about a controversial adjustment device on the Red Bull.

www.bbc.co.uk

red bull tea tray controversy - Google Search

 

[GeeJayW]

neilrr Post #468 Apr 22, 2024


Told ya!

US Grand Prix: McLaren boss Zak Brown 'still has questions' about Red Bull device

McLaren Racing chief executive officer Zak Brown says he “still has questions” about a controversial adjustment device on the Red Bull.

www.bbc.co.uk

red bull tea tray controversy - Google Search

Well, given that teams are allowed to make 'driver comfort' adjustments in Parc ferme, which can include pedal-box adjustments; that RBR have a 'tea-tray' height adjustment device in the same area does beg the question as to when they have utilised it and if that was under Parc ferme conditions? However, without an admission from the team or independent evidence/proof that they have been making illegal adjustments in Parc ferme, they are assumed to be in compliance with the regulations.

 

[GeeJayW]

Hmm, some great racing down the field and a worthy 1-2 for Ferrari (of which we saw little), but in spite of the nativity of Norris, the FiA really need to sort the track-limits regulations out.

 

[TC350]

Hmm, some great racing down the field and a worthy 1-2 for Ferrari (of which we saw little), but in spite of the nativity of Norris, the FiA really need to sort the track-limits regulations out.

“Nativity”! I know he’s young, but …

 

[GeeJayW]

“Nativity”! I know he’s young, but …

He doesn’t utilise/understand the regulations at the same level as Max who knew that:
a) he would not be penalised in Turn 1 Lap 1 and
b) he could run hot into Turn 12 to be ahead at the apex and ‘win’ the corner.

Had Norris dropped back in behind Max (who went off the circuit), it would have been Max getting a penalty as per George Russel et al. Though that assumes consistency from the stewards of course.

Ant Davidson’s analysis of Turn 12 incidents was usual, very good.