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[Deleted member 159894]

I have no problem whatsoever with your opinion.

The fundamental difference between me and you is the the same as the fundamental problem with wokeism.

I am all for wokeism in its truest form, that is defending people who cannot defend themselves. The problem with wokeism in its current form is that it allows whomever fits the current woke standards to behave as they wish with scrutiny of their behaviour not being allowed.

I do not ever instigate any form of attack.

But it's my belief that some people are simply deserving of what they get. If you attack me I attack back.

Woke in it’s truest form is simply being aware of injustice, people like you prefer to use the word as an insult.

 

[DSM10000]

Woke in it’s truest form is simply being aware of injustice, people like you prefer to use the word as an insult.

True but like many such terms the original meaning and intent is often hijacked or morphs into something else.

Essentially we are all flawed all capable of stupidity, thoughtlessness and other undesirable traits as well as kindness, empathy, compassion etc.

That's the human condition.

Circumstances we find ourselves in etc often determine which of the above we express

 

[poormansporsche]

Woke in it’s truest form is simply being aware of injustice, people like you prefer to use the word as an insult.

"People like me" are not actually me. Think what you like but I do try to avoid the wokey kokey threads. I have never used the word woke as a insult.

 

[Deleted member 159894]

True but like many such terms the original meaning and intent is often hijacked or morphs into something else.

Essentially we are all flawed all capable of stupidity, thoughtlessness and other undesirable traits as well as kindness, empathy, compassion etc.

That's the human condition.

Circumstances we find ourselves in etc often determine which of the above we express

I take my cues from the corporate world and dilute to suit my audience.

There are very few, if any, circumstances where I would be so unpleasant to a woman and no way that I would be boasting on the internet about it.

The woman said something to a friend and our hero kicked off as though he was a spoilt child.

 

[ChipChop]

"Mollycoddle" my dogs, naaaah

I don't actually live in a doss house despite what it looks like they are all for the pooches !

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Lovely looking dogs.
They appear to have quite a few options vis-a-vis kipping arrangements.
Always good to see well cared for dogs.

 

[Spider10]

Si if it was a woman walking the dogs and a bloke on the horse I think this thread would of gone a different route, but why!
I think she was the spoilt 1 who got abit of what she deserved

 

[Milton7]

We’ll done Op for starting an interesting debate. After seeing post 12 I thought your original post was a spoof but it appears not.
Your account of a very sensitive male walking his dogs being offended by a loud mouthed insensitive woman is a little depressing; neither of you wanted aggro next time suggest you ignore it. Silly people with fragile egos are killing themselves with knives in the cities. Sounds like you live in the country, I thought you countryside dwellers were relaxed for goodness sake chill.

 

[DSM10000]

I take my cues from the corporate world and dilute to suit my audience.

There are very few, if any, circumstances where I would be so unpleasant to a woman and no way that I would be boasting on the internet about it.

The woman said something to a friend and our hero kicked off as though he was a spoilt child.

Again I agree.

My point was that we, as individuals are subject to different circumstances in life, childhood, upbringing, education, life experiences and expectations etc that will colour how we as individuals behave.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Si if it was a woman walking the dogs and a bloke on the horse I think this thread would of gone a different route, but why!
I think she was the spoilt 1 who got abit of what she deserved

Hit the nail on the head!

 

[poormansporsche]

I take my cues from the corporate world and dilute to suit my audience.

There are very few, if any, circumstances where I would be so unpleasant to a woman and no way that I would be boasting on the internet about it.

The woman said something to a friend and our hero kicked off as though he was a spoilt child.

That's fine.

I've stated time and again it was said for me to hear, as on the original post "shouts loudly" when I was probably the same distance as her mate. I'm bored now going over it when everyone keeps ignoring it.

So you may not be unpleasant to a woman, just obtuse, argumentative and sarcastic to everyone on here just because you can.

As for the boasting, how can it be boasting when I knew I was going to get slated ? If some people found this thread interesting it was worth posting, nothing is forcing you to continue reading if my actions bother you so.

 

[poormansporsche]

Si if it was a woman walking the dogs and a bloke on the horse I think this thread would of gone a different route, but why!
I think she was the spoilt 1 who got abit of what she deserved

It could just have easily been the wife walking the dogs. Mrs PMP who definitely does have anger issues would have punched her !

 

[Deleted member 159894]

That's fine.

I've stated time and again it was said for me to hear, as on the original post "shouts loudly" when I was probably the same distance as her mate. I'm bored now going over it when everyone keeps ignoring it.

So you may not be unpleasant to a woman, just obtuse, argumentative and sarcastic to everyone on here just because you can.

As for the boasting, how can it be boasting when I knew I was going to get slated ? If some people found this thread interesting it was worth posting, nothing is forcing you to continue reading if my actions bother you so.

You picked your audience here well on the whole.

Only a couple of us have posed a less confrontational view, however, I have been contacted privately by members who are aghast at your lack of decorum.

 

[poormansporsche]

That's also fine. I didn't post the thread to receive praise. If you look at the posts I have liked, you will see I have not liked a single one of the more "stronger" replies in support of what I did.

But it done now. The opinions are set so there is no point worrying about it or trying to change them. So that will be it from me for now unless something else happens related to this event in the real world

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Calling someone fat when they are fat....well that's just the truth....cant handle that then do something about it or man up and take the comments.

Fat is an insult, obese is a fact. Calling someone fat is unacceptable in 2022, stating that someone is obese is inappropriate in most contexts too, because the intent matters more than the word.

Would you be comfortable shouting equivalent insults linked to equivalent facts linked to race, gender; religion, nationality, etc in a place filled with a group of people who could be described by those facts?

If you would then I would be surprised, but I am often surprised. If you would like to test it then I can take you to some places which are popular with groups who could be described by each of those facts.

We can then see how comfortable you are saying those things out loud. Let’s start with the facts and move on to the insults and see what the reaction is. You can then gauge whether it’s acceptable in 2022.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Probably wouldn't have done the poking. But would have called him a .unt which I would not have said to a woman and if it all kicked off so be it.

How would you feel if the roles were reversed and someone insulted your wife, child, parent or dog and then proceeded to touch them in a confrontational way?

Even if your wife, child, parent or dog had done something mildly unpleasant then I’m guessing you wouldn’t consider it acceptable. I wouldn’t. Because it’s not.

 

[Deleted member 159894]

That's also fine. I didn't post the thread to receive praise. If you look at the posts I have liked, you will see I have not liked a single one of the more "stronger" replies in support of what I did.

But it done now. The opinions are set so there is no point worrying about it or trying to change them. So that will be it from me for now unless something else happens related to this event in the real world

Why did you post it then?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Fortunately, some sensible professors at the university of Cambridge pushed back against the woke VCs dangerous edict that all employees should "respect" others' opinions. It was changed to "tolerate"

Surprising as the Cambridge University Press defines the word “tolerate” as meaning: “to deal with something unpleasant or annoying, or to continue existing despite bad or difficult conditions:”

Therefore to tolerate something implies that the views and opinions of the the tolerator is in some way superior to the tolerated, which is not really in-keeping with the freedom of right to expression.

That’s an unusual move as it also doesn’t seem in-keeping with the attitudes of an academic organisation in western society in 2022, and contrasts with the rest of society. Respected seems more appropriate.

 

[poormansporsche]

How would you feel if the roles were reversed and someone insulted your wife, child, parent or dog and then proceeded to touch them in a confrontational way?

Even if your wife, child, parent or dog had done something mildly unpleasant then I’m guessing you wouldn’t consider it acceptable. I wouldn’t. Because it’s not.

Bobby, I respect you more than most on here as you are the calm voice of reason. Mrs PMP has a temper on her and has got herself in bother on more than one occasion and it then falls to me to be the voice of reason. I was fully aware what I did which is why when the husband started on me I just said my bit, and walked. I'm not a small guy and he was old and small. I could have easily clumped him one which would have achieved precisely jack shit and my dogs were seriously upset by his ranting. I actually have no issue with him though as only doing his job !

 

[Rich764089]

Surprising as the Cambridge University Press defines the word “tolerate” as meaning: “to deal with something unpleasant or annoying, or to continue existing despite bad or difficult conditions:”

Therefore to tolerate something implies that the views and opinions of the the tolerator is in some way superior to the tolerated, which is not really in-keeping with the freedom of right to expression.

That’s an unusual move as it also doesn’t seem in-keeping with the attitudes of an academic organisation in western society in 2022, and contrasts with the rest of society. Respected seems more appropriate.

I disagree. You shouldn't be forced to respect something that are against your beliefs, for example. Why should you respect something you see as disgraceful?

It doesn't haven't any impact on freedom of expression; two separate issues. People should be free to express views you do not respect.

 

[poormansporsche]

Why did you post it then?

I don't really want to contribute any more but in answer to your question, I posted because I felt like it, sometimes you just have to let things out. I was fully aware how it was going to go and perhaps I like a bit of controversy ! Who knows

I will say though, the thread title was a mistake on my part !

But go on be honest, what about your curt replies on other threads ???? You like a bit of it too