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Formula One 2018 - General Thread
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Surrender: I.e. give up, having been subject to or in fear of taking punishment.
Even though it was a ballsy decision to effectively pull their product from the event at the eleventh hour, it was actually pretty astonishing and something of an own goal for Michelin not being able to provide tyres fit for purpose. I don't know if their share value was affected or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some quite ugly internal repercussions following this particular debacle.
As for F1 being about what the fans think or want... I'm not buying that at all. It should be (maybe), but it isn't. All IMHO of course.
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LeClerc gets the Ferrari seat
Kimi moves to Sauber for 2 years where he started his career
Charles Leclerc replaces Kimi Raikkonen at Ferrari in F1 2019
Kimi moves to Sauber for 2 years where he started his career
Charles Leclerc replaces Kimi Raikkonen at Ferrari in F1 2019
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It'd be interesting to see how Leclerc gets on with SV as I personally think the hype about him is ramped up way too much.
I'm glad that Kimi is staying with F1 as well.
I'm glad that Kimi is staying with F1 as well.
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As long as SV has the beating of his team mate, Ferrari will be happy. All they want is a top driver and a yes man. Hopefully LeClerc will get to grips with the car and pick up some points.
Not sure why Kimi decided to stay in F1 to be honest. Sauber won't get him anywhere. He must enjoy F1 more than I thought.
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Glad Kimi is staying in F1. Would have liked him back at McLaren.
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Leave him alone...'he knows what he's doing'
Classic , radio message slightly altered by me.
Classic , radio message slightly altered by me.
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"WHAT THE [CENSORED] IS THIS WILLIAMS DOING? "IF HE (DI RESTA) CAN'T SEE ME BEHIND HIM THEN HE SHOULD STICK TO THE REPORTING."
I had the privilege of engineering a test with the young Kimi 19 years ago when he was trying to decide if he was going to Palmer Audi or F. Renault.
He turned up at Bedford on a cold, damp and misty November morning and drove the wheels of a test FPA car.
On a slippery, unseen track in a car he had never driven before he was sensational. He has a really dry sense of humour which doesn't really come across on sanitised TV and a delight to work with.
I suspect he really does know what he is doing
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I had the privilege of engineering a test with the young Kimi 19 years ago when he was trying to decide if he was going to Palmer Audi or F. Renault.
He turned up at Bedford on a cold, damp and misty November morning and drove the wheels of a test FPA car.
On a slippery, unseen track in a car he had never driven before he was sensational. He has a really dry sense of humour which doesn't really come across on sanitised TV and a delight to work with.
I suspect he really does know what he is doing
We’ve always been Kimi fans. Even more so when he moved to McLaren. When our daughter was born in 2005 we were such fans of him that we named her Kimmy but chickened out when we registered her birth and changed it to Emily. The main reason being that we didn’t want her growing up wondering what the hell we were thinking!
The irony being that now, at the age of 13 she says it’d have been a cool & fairly unique (for where we live) name to have.
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Yeah. I remember it well. Everyone on the grid in the usual manor. Teams prepping the cars. All 22-24 cars set off for the formation lap then all but 6 pealed off into the pit lane. Strangest start to a race there’s ever been.
McLarens DC was on the radio during the formation lap saying if there was any way around the situation then he still wanted to go ahead and race.
“Negative David, Box Box Box”
There was a suggestion on the Saturday after Qually that the circuit install a last minute chicane on the corner responsible but not all teams agreed. Anyone like to guess which ones?
I was at the race - first we knew of any problem was the cars peeling off. The issues hadn't been reported at all in local press, as everyone around us in the stands was equally at a loss as to what was happening. I think Ralf was the only proper crash in practice, but apparently many other Michelin cars had tyres in a critical condition after practice.
When the grandstand opposite the pits was actually shaking with everyone stamping their feet after the race started, we decided to scarper and get out of there.
Image of MB on the phone was on his way from the grid to the commentary box - with an angry look on his face
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I've worked with countless race drivers who 'talked the talk' but very few who could 'walk the walk' and prove it within minutes of meeting them.
Kimi was one of those.
Another was a certain Ayrton Da Silva.
Way back in 1982 Eddie Jordan and I were running James Weaver in British F3 and James had put our car on pole at Silverstone just a few days prior to Eddie invited a young Brazilian driver (then in F2000) to test the car.
Having stuffed some carpet underlay down the back of the seat so he could reach the pedals better, I strapped him in an F3 car for the very first time. Inside 20mins he had bettered the pole time of the previous weekend, and better still, then began to tell us where the car was good and where we needed to improve it to allow him to go quicker......I still have the lap sheets!
The following year he was the opposition in F3 as I ran Brundle in their epic fight to the '83 title. We finally lost the battle at the last race of the season.
As some consolation, I would go on to win many races, a Sportscar world championship and Le Mans with Martin before he became the voice of F1, a great friend and biking buddy. Norfolk is a great playground on a motorcycle
Senna became a legend.
Kimi was one of those.
Another was a certain Ayrton Da Silva.
Way back in 1982 Eddie Jordan and I were running James Weaver in British F3 and James had put our car on pole at Silverstone just a few days prior to Eddie invited a young Brazilian driver (then in F2000) to test the car.
Having stuffed some carpet underlay down the back of the seat so he could reach the pedals better, I strapped him in an F3 car for the very first time. Inside 20mins he had bettered the pole time of the previous weekend, and better still, then began to tell us where the car was good and where we needed to improve it to allow him to go quicker......I still have the lap sheets!
The following year he was the opposition in F3 as I ran Brundle in their epic fight to the '83 title. We finally lost the battle at the last race of the season.
As some consolation, I would go on to win many races, a Sportscar world championship and Le Mans with Martin before he became the voice of F1, a great friend and biking buddy. Norfolk is a great playground on a motorcycle
Senna became a legend.
Martin Brundle never quite got the right drive to show how good he could have been in F1.
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I think there were also repercussions from his severe leg injuries earlier in his career.
Right time right place is a factor in so many things. So while things didn't work out so well in terms of driving opportunities - he was in the right time at the right place to start off with Murray Walker and begin a very well regarded broadcasting career. Another five or six years and he'll have been associated with F1 for 4 decades.
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So Kimi knew in Monza that he would no longer be driving for Ferrari.
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I've always thought Kimi had a great mix of talent and character. He clearly has a brilliant sense of humour and I suspect he gets a great deal of personal amusement out of the "Iceman" persona he's created for the benefit of the media.
One of my personal favourite anecdotes regarding Kimi was when he was driving for Ferrari in 2007 and they forbade him to enter a (somewhat mental) snowmobile race in Finland during the off season. So Kimi didn't enter it. But James Hunt did, and he won it
Watching him race at close quarters against Hamilton in Monza was a joy and a poignant contrast to the immature, clumsy, antics of Verstappen fending off Bottas. A timely reminder that when Kimi does eventually move on from F1 the sport will be lesser for it.
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Daniel-Ricciardo fastest in practice - Leclerc hits the barrier.
Singapore GP, Practice One: Daniel Ricciardo leads Red Bull one-two, Sebastian Vettel third
Singapore GP, Practice One: Daniel Ricciardo leads Red Bull one-two, Sebastian Vettel third
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Toto stated Ocon had 2 contracts on the table but then the teams 'didn't have the balls to stick with it'. He also stated he would not let Ocon go in a million years and that he had put forward the idea of 3 cars per team. Would suit the top teams but not the smaller ones.
