Ready steady Queue

[markjay]

From the Daily Mail....:

 

[poormansporsche]

I paid 166.9p per litre for Shell VPower Unleaded today, and VPower Diesel was 171.9p

It’s not a great time to have a car with 15 mpg potential whilst cruising at 60 mph on the motorway

Least with your car even the great unwashed would appreciate that it needs feeding very regularly so won't be mistaken for a panic buying numpty

 

[Fastcar155]

Hi , interesting articles in how petrol shortage could have been manulaped in UK !

 

[BTB 500]

I saw that picture of the S203 earlier today ... pumping fuel into 20 litre jerry cans while still in the boot beggars belief.

Our S205 was down to 85 miles range yesterday so I tried to fill it up after collecting BTB Junior from school ... queueing round the block for Morrisons, and the Shell station had no fuel of any type left. I'll go back next week when things are back to normal.

 

[Rich764089]

Blaming the government and the media for the fuel shortage isn't totally fair IMO. They are reporting a situation that brings out the worst in people.
The majority of blame lies with the selfish and greedy motorist pulling in to top up when they don't need it.
As for those who have been filling up jerry cans, I have nothing but anger.

I liken it to the previous emptying of supermarket shelves of toilet rolls and pasta by stupid idiots who think only about themselves.

Well I went to get some dog from from tesco this eve as nearly out, but they've got none. No bottled water. No summer fruits squash . Almost no toilet roll, beer, bread, Cereal. Wtf? Seems panic buying is already here? Annoyed about the dog food!
Did manage to get petrol though (petrol warning light predictably on). Two local stations had petrol no diesel, and restricting to £30.

 

[Petrol Pete]

At the risk of sounding a bit jingoistic how the F did we as a nation in just one generation go from resisting everything the third Reich threw at us - admittedly with lot's of help from our allies - to this ? The bloke with the W203 in these photos filling 5 or 6 Jerry cans (yes I realise the irony of the Jerry can thing) WTF ? markjay posted this sourced from the Daily Mail (another possible cause for raised 'irony' eyebrows) but come on !!?

Almost all of the plastic fuel cans in the photos look brand new , and as for the bloke with 120 litres in the boot of his S203 ,mate , I have one of those with a V8 5.4 litre engine . with a full tank ( you did remember to fill the tank up as well while in a mad rush to fill your cans up numb nuts ? ) I could cover about 850 miles with that amount of fuel.

Where the hell do you need to drive to in your diesel version of the same car over the next few days. Bucharest ? Lord have mercy .

To be honest there is little sign of this Tosspottery where I live , a little more garage 'activity' than normal , but nothing serious.

 

[Rich764089]

At the risk of sounding a bit jingoistic how the F did we as a nation in just one generation go from resisting everything the third Reich threw at us - admittedly with lot's of help from our allies - to this ? The bloke with the W203 in these photos filling 5 or 6 Jerry cans (yes I realise the irony of the Jerry can thing) WTF ? markjay posted this sourced from the Daily Mail (another possible cause for raised 'irony' eyebrows) but come on !!?

Almost all of the plastic fuel cans in the photos look brand new , and as for the bloke with 120 litres in the boot of his S203 ,mate , I have one of those with a V8 5.4 litre engine . with a full tank ( you did remember to fill the tank up as well while in a mad rush to fill your cans up numb nuts ? ) I could cover about 850 miles with that amount of fuel.

Where the hell do you need to drive to in your diesel version of the same car over the next few days. Bucharest ? Lord have mercy .

To be honest there is little sign of this Tosspottery where I live , a little more garage 'activity' than normal , but nothing serious.

Seems fairly sensible here too! Whereabouts are you?

 

[ChrisHGTV]

At the risk of sounding a bit jingoistic how the F did we as a nation in just one generation go from resisting everything the third Reich threw at us - admittedly with lot's of help from our allies - to this ? The bloke with the W203 in these photos filling 5 or 6 Jerry cans (yes I realise the irony of the Jerry can thing) WTF ? markjay posted this sourced from the Daily Mail (another possible cause for raised 'irony' eyebrows) but come on !!?

Almost all of the plastic fuel cans in the photos look brand new , and as for the bloke with 120 litres in the boot of his S203 ,mate , I have one of those with a V8 5.4 litre engine . with a full tank ( you did remember to fill the tank up as well while in a mad rush to fill your cans up numb nuts ? ) I could cover about 850 miles with that amount of fuel.

Where the hell do you need to drive to in your diesel version of the same car over the next few days. Bucharest ? Lord have mercy .

To be honest there is little sign of this Tosspottery where I live , a little more garage 'activity' than normal , but nothing serious.

Down in the South East seems quite widespread tosspottery from what I can see. I personally believe it’s partially due to the general mindset growing of defending ones resources in areas of relatively high (and increasing) population density. I mentioned this before in one of the car vs cyclist threads. Comes down to a general (and sometimes all consuming judging by responses on our local forums) feeling of competition - for space on the roads, parking, doctor waiting times etc etc. And now fuel. I think it’s quite a natural response, akin to squirrels hoarding I guess. But it is a shame that our societal consciousness doesn’t override this “natural” urge.

 

[E55BOF]

I live near Beaconsfield, and yes, plenty of bozos down here too. The worst I've seen was yesterday morning, nipping up to Asda early on to pick up a few groceries, and their petrol station is on the (single carriageway) access road before you reach the store car park. You can guess the rest...

Several drivers gave it up as a bad job and turned round and left, but I'm a stubborn old sod, so just drove down the opposite side of the road hoping there'd be nobody coming out; luckily there wasn't, and it was very uncrowded in the store, too.

 

[Rich764089]

I live near Beaconsfield, and yes, plenty of bozos down here too. The worst I've seen was yesterday morning, nipping up to Asda early on to pick up a few groceries, and their petrol station is on the (single carriageway) access road before you reach the store car park. You can guess the rest...

Several drivers gave it up as a bad job and turned round and left, but I'm a stubborn old sod, so just drove down the opposite side of the road hoping there'd be nobody coming out; luckily there wasn't, and it was very uncrowded in the store, too.

I do think the London commuter belt areas see people caught up in the rat race mentality in all aspects of life, like @ChrisHGTV said as well.
I spent 30 years in South bucks and really notice it when I come back from my current home, where things are quite different.

 

[merc07]

I have to fill up every couple of days for work as I do 200 - 250 miles a day, looks like I'm buggered, the 3 main supermarkets are out.

And the chainsaw is empty - I use a 20 litre Jerry can , not sure I want to fill it right now and end up on the front page news.

 

[fabes]

Just remember how stupid the average person is.

Then accept that 50% are therefore 'stupider'.

Thats the 50% right there queuing to top up another £20

 

[Darrell]

I went to work at the HS2 site at West Ruislip yesterday and during my 10 mile cycle ride from Mill Hill I passed a number of filling stations.
All had a huge queue outside. Some of them weren’t even open yet.

I left home at 6.15am!! The mind boggles.

 

[grober]

There's no "shortage of fuel"- just a shortage of tanker drivers to deliver it to retail outlets------
HGV haulage chief hits out at Grant Shapps' claim Brexit isn't to blame for driver shortage
RHA communication dated 20th JULY

News

www.rha.uk.net

 

[markjay]

There's no "shortage of fuel"- just a shortage of tanker drivers to deliver it to retail outlets------
HGV haulage chief hits out at Grant Shapps' claim Brexit isn't to blame for driver shortage
RHA communication dated 20th JULY

News

www.rha.uk.net

Seems that Brexit made an existing problem worse. Point is, Brexit is done and dusted, so shouldn't our government have seen this coming, and put mitigations in place before the situation turned into a crisis? Emergency visas and all that could have been done month ago. That's the main criticism that Shapps should answer.

 

[T5R+]

From the Daily Mail....:

Wonder how many private people are aware that you are only allowed to store upto 20l at home unless you know how to get to the 30l limit.

I would wager non of these people know the rules with respect to how much you can transport - "the law is an ass" comes to mind.

 

[st13phil]

Point is, Brexit is done and dusted, so shouldn't our government have seen this coming, and put mitigations in place before the situation turned into a crisis?

If anyone can unravel the conundrum as to why a proportion of the pool of east European labour left the UK for their home countries over the last 18 months, they’re a better man than me.

Did they leave due to Brexit, or was it because they saw the ability to reach their homes and families evaporating as the unmentionable pandemic developed and therefore made a bolt for home? And of those who still wish to work in the UK and have the required visa to do so, how many are deterred by the ongoing travel restrictions?

 

[Darrell]

If anyone can unravel the conundrum as to why a proportion of the pool of east European labour left the UK for their home countries over the last 18 months, they’re a better man than me.

Did they leave due to Brexit, or was it because they saw the ability to reach their homes and families evaporating as the unmentionable pandemic developed and therefore made a bolt for home? And of those who still wish to work in the UK and have the required visa to do so, how many are deterred by the ongoing travel restrictions?

I don’t know or have heard of any Eastern European’s that have gone home in the last 2 years.
They all seem to be working hard, buying German cars and sitting in Costa drinking coffee.

 

[Darrell]

My wife is at work today and just texted me telling me that 2 of our local filling stations have closed due to no fuel available.

It appears that the sheep have got what they wanted.

 

[ChrisHGTV]

If anyone can unravel the conundrum as to why a proportion of the pool of east European labour left the UK for their home countries over the last 18 months, they’re a better man than me.

Did they leave due to Brexit, or was it because they saw the ability to reach their homes and families evaporating as the unmentionable pandemic developed and therefore made a bolt for home? And of those who still wish to work in the UK and have the required visa to do so, how many are deterred by the ongoing travel restrictions?

I think it’s also a little unfair blaming the government for the driver shortage. The Government isn’t responsible for employing drivers. Any business that uses drivers (or depend on any foreign labour for that matter) should have had a business continuity plan in place. It’s not like labour restrictions post brexit was unknown. Seems to me the users of drivers are blaming the government for their own lack of planning. Our Company had a Brexit risk assessment/contingency plan in place years ago.