Rotalla Tyres - Anybody Had THEM?

[Will]

Correct. dB isn't a linear scale! 71dB is louder than 69dB by far more than (say) 69dB is louder than 67dB, etc.

In fact that was one of my considerations when I opted for the Dunlop Sport BluResponse over the Continental ContiPremiumContact 2 MO that I previously had.

That said... while the difference between 69dB and 71dB is noticeable, as others pointed-out the EU rating is for noise outside the car, not inside.

It is quite possible that the noise inside the car is in fact lower to such extent that the difference may be unnoticeable.

My own experience is that the biggest differentiator is the road surface.

Only time I ever really notice tyre noise is on the concrete stretches of the M25!

Yes, but they're 71 db noise rating according to Costco, and 70 according to Camskill, so I'd best buy them from Camskill...

I'm spoilt for choice; it's a nightmare, and my brain hurts, Brian...

Michelin do the Cross Climate in 245/40/18 which gets a 69dB rating too, or Pilot Alpin @ 68dB. I guess it comes down to what matters most - safety and good performance in different conditions, quietness, or cost etc.

 

[E55BOF]

All of those, in varying degrees. I drive the E500 pretty sedately - must be getting old - and that video in post 28 has done nothing to put me off the Rotellas I started the thread with. I assume the Pilot Alpin is a winter tyre, and I don't want (or need) winter tyres.

 

[Will]

All of those, in varying degrees. I drive the E500 pretty sedately - must be getting old - and that video in post 28 has done nothing to put me off the Rotellas I started the thread with. I assume the Pilot Alpin is a winter tyre, and I don't want (or need) winter tyres.

It sure is. Not sure how the performance would compare to a Rotella summer tyre, but it beats it on road noise if that’s your primary concern. I know several members on here use Winters all year round, and some run budgets - horses for courses I guess

Cross Climates could be worth a look, as I assume it’s a car you’d use all year round - and with the sound level being good it could meet most of your requirements well

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

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It sure is. Not sure how the performance would compare to a Rotella summer tyre, but it beats it on road noise if that’s your primary concern. I know several members on here use Winters all year round, and some run budgets - horses for courses I guess

Cross Climates could be worth a look, as I assume it’s a car you’d use all year round - and with the sound level being good it could meet most of your requirements well

sed winter tyres all year round on both RWD and 4WD AMGs and they were fine. I didn’t notice a difference in performance (but I drive like a daisy), and the wear rate was better than using summer tyres all year round.

 

[Deleted member 37751]

I’ve used winter tyres all year round on both RWD and 4WD AMGs and they were fine. I didn’t notice a difference in performance (but I drive like a daisy), and the wear rate was better than using summer tyres all year round.

I’ve driven a Mercedes C320 CDI in summer on winter tyres and the stopping distance was horrendous, about as bad as summer tyres in winter on snow!

 

[OneForTheRoad]

All of those, in varying degrees. I drive the E500 pretty sedately - must be getting old - and that video in post 28 has done nothing to put me off the Rotellas I started the thread with. I assume the Pilot Alpin is a winter tyre, and I don't want (or need) winter tyres.

It didnt me either. I drove my c250 for a full year on them . 204 bhp 500 nm . Sometimes whole heartedly, never a bit of bother in all weathers.

 

[alabbasi]

I buy Chinese tires all the time. The only brand that I brought which was truly crap was Sunny. I quit on brand names when I began to own so many cars that the tires would dry rot before I had the chance to mile them out.

Last set of tires that I got were for my E320 CDI and cost me $55 tire. They were actually made in Thailand or Indonesia.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I’ve driven a Mercedes C320 CDI in summer on winter tyres and the stopping distance was horrendous, about as bad as summer tyres in winter on snow!

Can you remember the make and model? I guess there’s good and bad in winter tyres as well as summer tyres.

 

[W1ghty]

Can you remember the make and model? I guess there’s good and bad in winter tyres as well as summer tyres.

I left some Pirelli winters on my E class a couple of years ago when they were at just under 4mm at the end of the winter so I could use them up . I never noticed the difference compared to summers

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Can you remember the make and model? I guess there’s good and bad in winter tyres as well as summer tyres.

They were Goodyears.

 

[SW18]

What about Goodyear Assym F1s? I recently bought a pair in 245/40 18 XL; they cost me just a few £ more than the Falkens (which I was also tempted by) but much less than the Conti and Michelin offerings. The Goodyears perform very well and are vastly quieter (rated 68dB for this tyre size) than the Pirelli rubbish that were on my car before.

E.g. Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 97Y XL Tyres | F1 Autocentres

 

[E55BOF]

Ah - Ha...

I've had Goodyear Efficient Grips before, and liked them, and they're very quiet; those F1 Asy 3s might well be the solution. I'd not found them before, only Asy 5s, which are 70 db noise rated.

I also found these earlier this morning:

Goodyear EfficientGrip ROF 245/45 R18 96Y *, runflat @ mytyres.co.uk

Goodyear EfficientGrip ROF 245/45 R18 96Y *, runflat Buy online, free shipping for orders of 2 or more tyres and quick deliveries from mytyres.co.uk - order comfortably online now!

www.mytyres.co.uk

which should be a touch quieter still (67 db), but they're runflats, which I've never had (general comments I've seen on runflats suggest they're noisy, give a hard ride on cars not designed to use them, and wear quickly), and they're quite a bit more expensive than the Asy 3s anyway, so probably not for me.

Apropos noise, at present the car is on Contactsport 5s (73 db - not good) at the front, and Jinyu YU61s (74 db - ) at the rear, so I should be able to improve both considerably.

My brain still hurts, Brian...

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Strangely, wrong thread

 

[SW18]

Ah - Ha...

I've had Goodyear Efficient Grips before, and liked them, and they're very quiet; those F1 Asy 3s might well be the solution. I'd not found them before, only Asy 5s, which are 70 db noise rated.

Yes, the Asy 5 are slightly noisier then Asy 3 for some reason. I have Asy 5 on the back as Asy 3 were no longer available in 265/35/18 size. Still nice and quiet compared to my previous Contis on the rear, and so far great grip even when applying all 380 horses, so I'm very happy with my new tyres and would recommend them.

 

[E55BOF]

They've been superseded by the Asy 5s, so stock may be running out. Just in case it does, I've bought and paid for them; they'll go on the wheels next Tuesday, and the wheels on the car asap after that.

I'll never know whether the Rotallas would have been a bargain or a disappointment now.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

Ah - Ha...

I've had Goodyear Efficient Grips before, and liked them, and they're very quiet; those F1 Asy 3s might well be the solution. I'd not found them before, only Asy 5s, which are 70 db noise rated.

I also found these earlier this morning:

Goodyear EfficientGrip ROF 245/45 R18 96Y *, runflat @ mytyres.co.uk

Goodyear EfficientGrip ROF 245/45 R18 96Y *, runflat Buy online, free shipping for orders of 2 or more tyres and quick deliveries from mytyres.co.uk - order comfortably online now!

www.mytyres.co.uk

which should be a touch quieter still (67 db), but they're runflats, which I've never had (general comments I've seen on runflats suggest they're noisy, give a hard ride on cars not designed to use them, and wear quickly), and they're quite a bit more expensive than the Asy 3s anyway, so probably not for me.

Apropos noise, at present the car is on Contactsport 5s (73 db - not good) at the front, and Jinyu YU61s (74 db - ) at the rear, so I should be able to improve both considerably.

My brain still hurts, Brian...

I've had runflats on 2 cars and couldn't wait to get rid of them, there's no way I'd be deliberately replacing normal tyres with runflat shitters.

They are hard, ride badly, noisy and expensive.

 

[bolidemichael]

I have seen a few comments of Falkens. I ran a new set of Falken FK501 on my S211 E500 and they are excellent tyres in all conditions and up to 155mph indicated. They were as good as the Continental MO Contisport that I had before.

Four tyres cost me the same as three Michelin PS4. I'm now on the PS4 (I had to scratch the itch), but have barely covered enough miles on them to comment.

If I drove as sedately as OP, I'd consider the Falkens over and above the Rotella, simply because of the robustness of the testing and manufacturing associated with a premium Japanese manufacturer. Consistency of production output is key with tyres and for my peace of mind - I imagine the cost difference is reasonable enough to justify.

 

[E55BOF]

Falken was founded in 1983; the company making Rotalla tyres was founded in 1986. I'm inclined to think both companies will have learned a thing or two about making tyres since then. So many budget tyres are produced in China for economic reasons, not because they're all poor quality. I have an open mind about Chinese tyres; I remember when Hankook and Toyo, to name but two brands, were regarded as cheap rubbish, but they're decent enough names now.

That video OnefortheRoad posted is interesting; even the video maker was surprised that objectively, there was only about a 5% difference between the two makes of tyre. Subjectively? I'm not a wannabee Jeremy Clarkson, and I don't drive like that in the dry, let alone in the wet...

 

[flowrider]

Falkan or its distributors have cottoned on to the fact that their FK510 tyres are well thought of, for the tyre sizes I need the Falkans are more expensive than the Goodyear F1 AS5.

 

[bolidemichael]

I don't agree OP's logic, that the longer a company persists, the higher quality the products become.

Would one purchase a Ford and argue that it is just as good as a Mercedes Benz because one has no intention of being Stirling Moss?

Rotalla may be a good tyre, but it doesn't negate any stated benefits of Falkens; however, in the right situation, one may well be grateful for the technology and durable quality of a high quality tyre.