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It is definately a bit quicker than my SL500 but maybe not quite by the margin I was expecting though. Maybe this one is down on power and my SL500 is up on power. Oliver @ Prestige did say that there was a very slight misfire on idle that could be due to plugs or also would not be a bad idea to change the coil pack as well.
Can't see when the plugs were last changed and understand the plugs to be a long interval before change. Anyone any idea of when plugs need changing on an SL60 and also what plugs are best to use if different from the stock MB ones?
My SL500 has had the CATS removed and a full Powerflow S/S exhaust fitted. Always felt quick to me and felt definately quicker/more responsive after the exhaust work. I might get a rolling road session booked for each to see what the difference is to make sure both engines are performing as they should.
Anyone used any places with rolling roads near Hertfordshire way?
Can't see when the plugs were last changed and understand the plugs to be a long interval before change. Anyone any idea of when plugs need changing on an SL60 and also what plugs are best to use if different from the stock MB ones?
My SL500 has had the CATS removed and a full Powerflow S/S exhaust fitted. Always felt quick to me and felt definately quicker/more responsive after the exhaust work. I might get a rolling road session booked for each to see what the difference is to make sure both engines are performing as they should.
Anyone used any places with rolling roads near Hertfordshire way?
talbir
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Cats, if working to full efficiency will only reduce BHP by some 5-6%, however if they are breaking up inside, then they can reduce power by some 60%+ in extreme cases.
I wouldn't expect much else to impact performance materially on the m119 engines, of course a good service is a good starting point.
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I wouldn't expect much else to impact performance materially on the m119 engines, of course a good service is a good starting point.
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I am going to get the SL500 and SL60 AMG booked in for a dyno session this week. That should shed some light on things. I know the SL60 has had a recent error on the upstream lambda/O2 sensor and has a very slight mis on idle but seems to run fine when rolling. Could be neededing replacment spark plugs or coil pack. However I just expected the SL60 AMG to be more noticeably faster that the SL500. It is quicker but not by the margin I anticipated.
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This is all very interesting and I am finding out loads but I am not getting any work done and it is taking tons of time! However it has to be done.
The '1F' or '2F' in the VIN numbers denotes if it is LHD or RHD. VIN's with 1F are LHD 2F is RHD according to my MB source. Can anyone with a RHD SL60 concur this?
I am waiting for further info from Mercedes CAC to move further with this. I now know that the car was originally supplied to Denis Lewis whis is indeed Lennox Lewis' brother. The registered address ties up as I am aware of where Lennox Lewis lives(or has a house) as it is 5 mins down the road from me and I know the area very well.
The engine number seems to be a genuine AMG engine code but not known by AMG, Germany according to the person I have been speaking to or the records that they have accessed.
The search and mystery continues!
The '1F' or '2F' in the VIN numbers denotes if it is LHD or RHD. VIN's with 1F are LHD 2F is RHD according to my MB source. Can anyone with a RHD SL60 concur this?
I am waiting for further info from Mercedes CAC to move further with this. I now know that the car was originally supplied to Denis Lewis whis is indeed Lennox Lewis' brother. The registered address ties up as I am aware of where Lennox Lewis lives(or has a house) as it is 5 mins down the road from me and I know the area very well.
The engine number seems to be a genuine AMG engine code but not known by AMG, Germany according to the person I have been speaking to or the records that they have accessed.
The search and mystery continues!
Im glad you bought it... Well done.
vincenz
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Congrats on teh purchase, very nice car.
However your comment on power delivery is to be expected, they are not like the 55 and 65 apart etc.
IanA2
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I must say this surprises me. I ran a decatted 500 and a 60 side by side for a year...the 60 was/is seriously faster, and much more responsive than the 500.
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It suprised me as well. I have to say I haven't driven the SL60 much as only drove it on the test drive for 20-30 mins. I haven't changed over all the insurance yet as I am still trying to sort out a couple of anomolies with the engine number and MB/AMG/DVLA records. I have a dyno session booked in for Friday morning for both cars so will see what each unit is outputting then. I now the SL60 maybe down on power as hasn't been used much and seems it could do with a plug change and maybe a coil pack. However it should be interesting to see at this stage what the difference is.
On the drive back from buying the car we were both rolling side by side at about 40mph and both kicked down hard. The SL60 was pulling away but only very gradually so that was only basis of my view so far.
On the drive back from buying the car we were both rolling side by side at about 40mph and both kicked down hard. The SL60 was pulling away but only very gradually so that was only basis of my view so far.
I would be very curious to know the outcome of your tests. When I drove the car, I thought it was very quick but we then jumped into my car (S600 5.8 V12) and did the same route and while not a 'solid' as the SL, both the owner and I commented that there did not appear to be much in it, especially in the midrange.
If there is more power to come from your SL60 then you did very well!
If there is more power to come from your SL60 then you did very well!
IanA2
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The first time I drove a 60 was after I had driven 150 miles in my 500 to see it. I noticed the difference immediately, everything was more responsive. If I had driven it like I drove the 500 I would have been off the road!!
vincenz
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Maybe its a fake ? Or had an engine transplant at some time.
talbir
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All MBs have the letter 1 after the 6th numeric if they are LHD and 2 if they are RHD.
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talbir
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The extra power in the SL60 is worth a good half-a-second on the 0-100kmh dash, so you should easily feel/notice the difference in acceleration.
But if needs a service/tuning, then it could be off the pace.
Have you looked at the engine management modules - do any of them have the HWA part no.s ?
If it's only pulling away gradually from a 5.0 M119 car, then something is wrong.
talbir
But if needs a service/tuning, then it could be off the pace.
Have you looked at the engine management modules - do any of them have the HWA part no.s ?
If it's only pulling away gradually from a 5.0 M119 car, then something is wrong.
talbir
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Setanta...am I right in saying that your S600 has 362bhp and 530nm torque? If so coupled with the 200-300kg extra weight the SL60 should be noticeably quicker than the S600? The SL60 has minimum 381bhp and 580nm torque with some owners reporting up to 411bhp and not sure about unnofficial torque figures. Therefore if you felt the SL60 wasn't much quicker if anything then it must be down on power I would suggest.
The Dyno session on Friday morning will show this I guess so will keep you all posted.
The Dyno session on Friday morning will show this I guess so will keep you all posted.
If anyone happens to be interested, I did see an excellent (bodywork and interior are absolutely immaculate) SL60 but quite a bit more money that has not been advertised (they would be looking for high teen's in price). I can provide the contact details if needed.
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Talbir...I have not looked at the engine management modules. Where are they and are they easy to get to in order to have a look?
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Just for those who may be interested I have grabbed the domain name 'sl60amg.com' and quickly added a feebie gallery script. I know nothing about this script so have only quickly created in and added some pictures in about 5 mins so forgive it if it is rubbish!
Just shows a few shots to if any light can be shed. You can see the site at Gallery or www.sl60amg.com
Long term I might make this available to members to post up their own pics and we can create some albums of different SL60's and specific parts fo the cars etc.
Just shows a few shots to if any light can be shed. You can see the site at Gallery or www.sl60amg.com
Long term I might make this available to members to post up their own pics and we can create some albums of different SL60's and specific parts fo the cars etc.
