So, AMG owners, how’s your Fuel Consumption?

[Bobby Dazzler]

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[philnewmerc]

First tank in my CLS 55 has been 18.4 mpg and dash read out was 18.9 so not far off. Was 50/50 town and A roads

 

[philnewmerc]

Interesting. I used to have an E61 535d touring and that was a mere 38mpg, but I suppose everything's getting more efficient.
(Still hate diesels - I know it's the tax break, but seriously?)

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Might have already been answered but my guess is your calculation was the brim-to-brim real figure of 38 mpg and the 45 mpg of the mate was the on board readout, which in BMWs is notoriously optimistic (or dam right fraudulent if you own one of their PHEV vehicles - X5 45e owners think they're getting 50+ mpg but actually it calculates mpg INCLUDING the miles when it's running on battery so the real mpg is actually about 22 mpg on petrol and 2 mi/kwh on battery... pathetic figures really and no wonder BMW hide them, though it is more surprising why someone who has the brains to earn enough to buy one hasn't the brains to work out they're being lied to???)
And once average price difference is taken into account the 38 mpg diesel is about equivalent to a 35 mpg petrol... still good for the performance, I'd like one! (but not amazing and eventually something expensive will be needed like turbo, dpf, injectors, or swirls, one of those killed my own mint 320d)

Rant over

 

[badgx]

Might have already been answered but my guess is your calculation was the brim-to-brim real figure of 38 mpg and the 45 mpg of the mate was the on board readout, which in BMWs is notoriously optimistic (or dam right fraudulent if you own one of their PHEV vehicles - X5 45e owners think they're getting 50+ mpg but actually it calculates mpg INCLUDING the miles when it's running on battery so the real mpg is actually about 22 mpg on petrol and 2 mi/kwh on battery... pathetic figures really and no wonder BMW hide them, though it is more surprising why someone who has the brains to earn enough to buy one hasn't the brains to work out they're being lied to???)
And once average price difference is taken into account the 38 mpg diesel is about equivalent to a 35 mpg petrol... still good for the performance, I'd like one! (but not amazing and eventually something expensive will be needed like turbo, dpf, injectors, or swirls, one of those killed my own mint 320d)

Rant over

It's okay to rant a little, helps get things of the chest

 

[badgx]

I'm really delighted with my m157, the fuel economy for a V8 is amazing when driven conservatively and at the same time can deliver some brutal performance. My m156 on the otherhand drinks a lot but it's possible to achieve around 24mpg on the motorway.

Both cars return decent smiles per gallon

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Might have already been answered but my guess is your calculation was the brim-to-brim real figure of 38 mpg and the 45 mpg of the mate was the on board readout, which in BMWs is notoriously optimistic (or dam right fraudulent if you own one of their PHEV vehicles - X5 45e owners think they're getting 50+ mpg but actually it calculates mpg INCLUDING the miles when it's running on battery so the real mpg is actually about 22 mpg on petrol and 2 mi/kwh on battery... pathetic figures really and no wonder BMW hide them, though it is more surprising why someone who has the brains to earn enough to buy one hasn't the brains to work out they're being lied to???)
And once average price difference is taken into account the 38 mpg diesel is about equivalent to a 35 mpg petrol... still good for the performance, I'd like one! (but not amazing and eventually something expensive will be needed like turbo, dpf, injectors, or swirls, one of those killed my own mint 320d)

Rant over

The correlation between intelligence and wealth can be quite loose!

The wealthiest person I know couldn’t work out MPG easily, but my goodness me he has a real knack for assessing risk/opportunity and making the right decisions.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

The correlation between intelligence and wealth can be quite loose!
The wealthiest person I know couldn’t work out MPG easily, but my goodness me he has a real knack for assessing risk/opportunity and making the right decisions.

Gotta disagree on this one.

I've studied and worked alongside some seriously clever people. At every level of education: just ordinary A level, degree level, Masters, and PhD. And in "hard subjects" too, not the easy stuff.

The people who become the wealthiest are never, but never, the sharpest knives in the drawer. It's a different skill.

If you want to create wealth you just need to generate income, minimise expense, buy low, sell high, borrow low, leveraging assets, motivating people while keeping the capital to yourself, and never pausing to say "enough's enough."

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

.....but well said for pointing out that mpg for a plug-in in ridiculous unless you include the electrical energy cost.

I don't think I know a single PHEV owner who's acknowledged this.

It "might" be low if it's home charged, but it's still relevant. If it's commercially charged on the road, it's certainly relevant.

And, of course, we know that most first generation PHEV's weren't plugged in every night, so just ended up being a simple company car tax dodge that didn't really outperform diesel.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Gotta disagree on this one.

I've studied and worked alongside some seriously clever people. At every level of education: just ordinary A level, degree level, Masters, and PhD. And in "hard subjects" too, not the easy stuff.

The people who become the wealthiest are never, but never, the sharpest knives in the drawer. It's a different skill.

If you want to create wealth you just need to generate income, minimise expense, buy low, sell high, borrow low, leveraging assets, motivating people while keeping the capital to yourself, and never pausing to say "enough's enough."

I don’t think you’re disagreeing.

The person I mentioned in my post has no education and wouldn’t mind me saying that he’s not intelligent by conventional measures. He’s head and shoulders above anyone else I know in terms of wealth though. There are plenty more just like him, there are plenty more who are well educated, and even more in between.

I said that the correlation between wealth and intelligence is quite loose, and I would say there is a much stronger correlation is between wealth and taking the right risks or making the right decisions (two sides or the same coin). That said, the strongest correlation of all is luck, but there are many many more factors.

It’s true that it’s possible to create your own luck, but even then good old fashioned luck is critical. It’s blooming difficult to be successful at anything with a head wind of bad luck. Ultimately we all have broadly the same opportunity to succeed, some of us want it badly enough, some of us don’t, some have a helping hand and others don’t.

 

[badgx]

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Spielberg supposedly are people with ASD, don't know how true this is but they are very wealth

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

I don’t think you’re disagreeing.
The person I mentioned in my post has no education and wouldn’t mind me saying that he’s not intelligent by conventional measures. He’s head and shoulders above anyone else I know in terms of wealth though. There are plenty more just like him, there are plenty more who are well educated, and even more in between.
I said that the correlation between wealth and intelligence is quite loose, and I would say there is a much stronger correlation is between wealth and taking the right risks or making the right decisions (two sides or the same coin). That said, the strongest correlation of all is luck, but there are many many more factors.
It’s true that it’s possible to create your own luck, but even then good old fashioned luck is critical. It’s blooming difficult to be successful at anything with a head wind of bad luck. Ultimately we all have broadly the same opportunity to succeed, some of us want it badly enough, some of us don’t, some have a helping hand and others don’t.

But I am. I'm suggesting that it's pretty much inverse and that real intelligence undermines wealth creation.

From what I've seen, of self-made people, they make wealth by wanting to make wealth, with obsessive determination, energy, and refusal to be deflected.

To their credit on the numeracy side, they usually know exactly where they are this month, this quarter and this year, compared to plan, and can reel off the numbers of how its going, in a way which would stun normal people, well-educated, or not.

Their wealthy wives: not so much. But they're not the wealth creators

 

[badgx]

This guy didn't go school but has financial education, what i think he describes as the kind not taught in schools. He written several books, most popular one, Rich Dad Poor Dad

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[E55BOF]

Did 85 miles in the CLS yesterday, virtually all motorway, mostly light traffic, not in a hurry so sticking rigidly to the 70 limit just to see what the fuel consumption might be.

30.3 mpg.

I'm on the point of retirement, so I suppose I could do that all the time from now on. I was passed by all sorts of mundane stuff, though, and it was very, very boring too; I don't think I intend to make a habit of it just yet...

 

[f17ant]

Don’t ask me how but iv managed
38.6 MPG on a 34 mile trip in the C63 only once and got the wife to take a photo of it

But usually on motorways I can average 31-33

 

[chic0821]

From memory, I haven't put a drop of petrol in it since the end of October. Pretty amazing eh!. Oh s##t, the wife has just reminded me it's been on Sorn since then. Wondered how I hadn't seen it

 

[Spider10]

I got the SLK55 down to 18 MPG today over 50 miles still not as bad as the w204 ppp c63 I managed 8 MPG in that

 

[badgx]

Not an AMG, managing an average 49.9mpg on a motorway run petrol powered 2.0L Skyactiv. Highest peaked at 51.3mpg.

Weight included family of 5 with some luggage

 

[badgx]

Information on Skyactiv, not an AMG but very economical and reliable

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[DriverLDN]

I've been averaging around 18mpg long-term over 17k miles so far on my M156 C63. Although the last 10 fill-ups have been urban driving have seen 13.5mpg. The car just had an A service last week with new sparkplugs. I have a drive from London to Bristol, so I might try an MPG challenge, but who am I kidding!? I don't have the discipline to not give a hoon now and again on the journey.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I've been averaging around 18mpg long-term over 17k miles so far on my M156 C63. Although the last 10 fill-ups have been urban driving have seen 13.5mpg. The car just had an A service last week with new sparkplugs. I have a drive from London to Bristol, so I might try an MPG challenge, but who am I kidding!? I don't have the discipline to not give a hoon now and again on the journey.

The best I have ever managed with an M156 is 26.x MPG on a very long motorway journey with cruise contrail set to no more than 60 mph, and long sections of road works. Usually 19-21 mpg on a normal long distance motorway drive.