The EV fact thread

[Will]

Hopefully, but that's not going to help if used coiled up.

Of course - it was in reference to your second lead you posted (and obviously understand regards being coiled up!)

 

[Petrol Pete]

Cars idling , poisoning us all ??. FF to 25.20 minutes to see how long the USA ex cop car stood idling !!

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[Petrol Pete]

Any particular reason why, it should?

No matter , it's written off , the floorpan has a tiny dent in it .

 

[Petrol Pete]

Speaking of Leafs ... saw this rather long-winded video yesterday with lots of consumer rights stuff to wade through but the gist of it is that they bought a 5 year old Nissan Leaf that turned out to only have a range of 30-60 miles. Nissan's diagnostics showed it had multiple failed or failing battery modules so it required a new battery pack at a cost of £17,000. They had paid £9,950 for the car, and it went over the 100,000 mile battery warranty limit while they were waiting for a diagnostic appointment (6 week lead time). I lost interest in the bickering between them and Nissan but it seems they lost a small claims court case.

Interesting because they obviously weren't well off and this was their only car, so driving it long distances (Bath to Sunderland and back, IIRC?) for Nissan to look at it presented some problems.

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GBC is a bit of a major anti EV bloke , I have not watched this video , but lets face it , if you wanted to buy a car to use as a regular form of transport from Bath (Somerset) to Sunderland (County Durham) a Nissan Leaf would be the very LAST car you might think of buying

 

[Petrol Pete]

I thought granny charging was generally limited to 10A from the mains, which shouldn't push anything particularly hard? Similar to many electric heaters (often 2 kW)

It's people who do not unreel the whole extension lead before plugging in that are the problem.

 

[Petrol Pete]

Yes, it's but easily missed if you're not looking for it. Checking a couple of cheapies that I use for light stuff ... this is the "heavy duty" one:

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So 3A coiled and 10A fully extended. This one does have a thermal cutout which should in theory prevent it from catching fire. But the other one is only rated for 3A coiled and 5A fully extended, and has no thermal cutout:

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BSEN 61242 was last upgraded in 2004 . Only 21 years ago , so it should be OK

 

[BTB 500]

GBC is a bit of a major anti EV bloke , I have not watched this video , but lets face it , if you wanted to buy a car to use as a regular form of transport from Bath (Somerset) to Sunderland (County Durham) a Nissan Leaf would be the very LAST car you might think of buying

They bought the car for short range use (but more than 30 miles ). The issue with Nissan was that they couldn't take an EV to a local dealer ... only certain sites were trained/authorised to work on them. It had to go a long way to be inspected by them for the warranty issue ... it was Sunderland IIRC, but not 100% sure on that.

Totally agree the bloke is anti-EV.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Speaking of Leafs ... saw this rather long-winded video yesterday with lots of consumer rights stuff to wade through but the gist of it is that they bought a 5 year old Nissan Leaf that turned out to only have a range of 30-60 miles. Nissan's diagnostics showed it had multiple failed or failing battery modules so it required a new battery pack at a cost of £17,000. They had paid £9,950 for the car, and it went over the 100,000 mile battery warranty limit while they were waiting for a diagnostic appointment (6 week lead time). I lost interest in the bickering between them and Nissan but it seems they lost a small claims court case.

Interesting because they obviously weren't well off and this was their only car, so driving it long distances (Bath to Sunderland and back, IIRC?) for Nissan to look at it presented some problems.

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Anyone else feel uncomfortable with the way this YouTuber Geoff puts an inflection in the name of the car dealer who supplied the car, and the comments he made towards the end of the video about buying cars from people with similar sounding names, and buying cars from London, Birmingham and Bradford?

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

It's people who do not unreel the whole extension lead before plugging in that are the problem.

it's a couple of years since I was granny charging my way around New England, so my granny memory's a bit vague but...

If you're always granny charging, isn't there an ability to slow the rate of charge anyway, as most people don't need 14 hours of overnight charging to refill their daily use?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

it's a couple of years since I was granny charging my way around New England, so my granny memory's a bit vague but...

If you're always granny charging, isn't there an ability to slow the rate of charge anyway, as most people don't need 14 hours of overnight charging to refill their daily use?

Depending upon the car, on most modern EVs you can normally set start and stop times, stop percentages, etc. Sometimes remotely using an app, or using the controls on the cluster.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Depending upon the car, on most modern EVs you can normally set start and stop times, stop percentages, etc. Sometimes remotely using an app, or using the controls on the cluster.

It’s that ability to dial down the load that I’m emphasising here, so less opportunity to run vaguely warm when you’ve cabled overnight, but only need say 1kwh over 14 hours.

For folks not benefitting from overnight tariff reductions and just topping up a tad from the office, the workshop, Dad’s garage and so on.

Bearing in mind that an awful lot of people do less than a hundred miles in their routine week

 

[poormansporsche]

it's a couple of years since I was granny charging my way around New England, so my granny memory's a bit vague but...

If you're always granny charging, isn't there an ability to slow the rate of charge anyway, as most people don't need 14 hours of overnight charging to refill their daily use?

Ya. On the Leaf the auto charging controls are somewhat similar to the timer on my 20 year old boiler, basic but gets the job done.

 

[Will]

Yes, even on my little B250e you can select the charging rate on the cluster.