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The ultimate Mercedes purchase experience: how to lose a deal.

There's no doubt that cash is no longer king. It's frustrating when you know exactly what you want and have the means to buy it but then have to almost plead with the sales person to get on with the sale and not to waste time trying to flog finance, gap insurance, warranties etc. My last purchase took all afternoon to conclude when it could have all been settled in less than an hour. On-line is looking more and more tempting!
 
I have had a Land Rover dealer point blank refuse to give me a price for cash.
 
The buying process has been changing for some time and there's nothing you can do to change it.

Dealers don't make enough money just be selling you a car which is in demand anyway, they need the cross-sales to make it a profitable transaction otherwise they have added nothing to it themselves and become irrelevant.

The buyers whose budget is measured monthly are very much needed to keep the dealer network in business and offering the facilities that the majority of owners will value such as workshop and parts.
 
The very first "proper" question the salesman asked was how would I be financing the car and he told me point blank that I "would" get a better deal if I took a finance / PCP deal , a good deal for him maybe but I fail to see how paying >6% interest on almost 20k over three years would benefit me in anyway. :confused:

Kenny
 
This scenario is so boring. Click, click click.
No fuss no cuppa and at the end no feeling you have done something good.

Mmmm, cup of **** coffee and wasting time at a dealer sounds fun to me too ;)

The good bit is when the car arrives, the rest is dull and a just hassle for me. Personally, I don't need to be pampered by a car salesperson to feel good, but equally I don't mind the fact that other people do. It's just personal choice :)
 
My new car has been bought on finance - thus attracting an extra £6K of discounts over what I could wrangle out of the dealer (which was very little!). I will be using the 14-day cooling-off period to cancel the finance and pay it off in full without penalty.

Seems to be the way to do it nowadays.
 
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M-B barely makes it to average on most counts, disappointing for a 'premium' brand...

Bottom of the pile under the value for money category. :p
BMW
Mercedes
Audi
Porsche
LandRover

I would suggest that this result stems from the fact that most main dealer have changed their business model. Instead deriving the bulk of their revenue from selling cars They make a healthy amount from their servicing and spare parts. :dk:
 
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From what I read above, was my experience unique?

I went to my local dealer knowing what I wanted because I'd done my research. I was seen by a salesman straight away and even before my coffee arrived I'd told him the exact model I wanted and which options. I also told him that I would only pay cash and that I'd had quotes from a couple of online dealers of £..... . I was totally straight with him and didn't give him the impression that I was a time-waster or just there for the best deal.

He gave me a price without any attempts to persuade me to have anything I didn't want. I wasn't happy with his price and told him that he had to get nearer to the online quotes I had. I told him that I preferred to deal directly with him, but not at a high cost. He asked me to leave it with him and I walked out.

Later that day he phoned with a better offer, one that was close to what I was hoping for. I went back to see him the next morning and, after briefly trying for something better, signed the forms. I got the car for £4215 off list - not as big a discount as I may have got elsewhere, but I was delighted with the service and felt good.

A couple of weeks ago I popped into the dealership about something totally different. It was nearly three years since I'd taken delivery of my car and I hadn't seen that salesman since. He spotted me and came up to find out how I was and if everything was OK with the car (which it was). He knew which car I had. Once again I left the dealership feeling good, just as I had on previous visits for servicing. I'll be back there for my next car (if I ever stop loving this one).

They're not all bad. Perhaps it's the bad experiences that get most column inches. But sadly that applies to everything doesn't it?
 
From what I read above, was my experience unique?

I went to my local dealer knowing what I wanted because I'd done my research. I was seen by a salesman straight away and even before my coffee arrived I'd told him the exact model I wanted and which options. I also told him that I would only pay cash and that I'd had quotes from a couple of online dealers of £..... . I was totally straight with him and didn't give him the impression that I was a time-waster or just there for the best deal.

He gave me a price without any attempts to persuade me to have anything I didn't want. I wasn't happy with his price and told him that he had to get nearer to the online quotes I had. I told him that I preferred to deal directly with him, but not at a high cost. He asked me to leave it with him and I walked out.

Later that day he phoned with a better offer, one that was close to what I was hoping for. I went back to see him the next morning and, after briefly trying for something better, signed the forms. I got the car for £4215 off list - not as big a discount as I may have got elsewhere, but I was delighted with the service and felt good.

A couple of weeks ago I popped into the dealership about something totally different. It was nearly three years since I'd taken delivery of my car and I hadn't seen that salesman since. He spotted me and came up to find out how I was and if everything was OK with the car (which it was). He knew which car I had. Once again I left the dealership feeling good, just as I had on previous visits for servicing. I'll be back there for my next car (if I ever stop loving this one).

They're not all bad. Perhaps it's the bad experiences that get most column inches. But sadly that applies to everything doesn't it?


Was this at Cambridge? I've always had good service in there!
 
I read somewhere that when one is a cash buyer, one should take the finance deal offered to benefit from the incentives (e.g. dealer contribution etc) and then cancel the finance agreement within the 14-day cooling off period by paying the balance off in full which will be the cost of car minus the dealer/manufacturer contribution(s)!

I haven't had the opportunity to test out this advice since I haven't had the opportunity to buy a car from a main dealer in recent years.

I agree, I was offered a deal with finance that I could cancel, and if the numbers had added up, I would have taken it. They just would not get anywhere near the internet broker price at all.
 
My understanding is that if you print off the internet deal...most stealers will price match? as new cars are picked up there anyway...


I agree, I was offered a deal with finance that I could cancel, and if the numbers had added up, I would have taken it. They just would not get anywhere near the internet broker price at all.
 
My understanding is that if you print off the internet deal...most stealers will price match? as new cars are picked up there anyway...

I can categorically say that is not true in my local dealer, the sales manager, and salesman were not even interested in getting near it.

In my case the numbers were DTD price 47K. MB dealer 52k lowest. List was 54.5K. I had the drive the deal price on me, they would not even countenance it.

I would have paid a 1 to 1.5k premium to buy from local dealer.
 
It was explained to me, that discounts are dealer specific, and are often based on sales volumes.

The dealers who work with DTD or other Brokers, are the ones that tend to service large fleet contracts, and therefore shift more cars, and therefore can offer bigger discounts.

Can anybody confirm that?

DTD put me in contact with the Fleet Business Development Manager at a large MB Dealership in the south west to service my deal, and he was first class.
 
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I will be using the 14-day cooling-off period to cancel the finance and pay it off in full without penalty.

Can you tell me when this was introduced? My understanding is that when you take dealer finance there is no "cooling off" period as you have visited the dealership's trade premises and made an informed decision.

Now, if a double glazing salesman visits you at your home and presents you with a finance deal which you sign you do have a "cooling off" period.

I worked for 27 years for a major finance company so things may have changed.
 
Bottom of the pile under the value for money category. :p
BMW
Mercedes
Audi
Porsche
LandRover

I would suggest that this result stems from the fact that most main dealer have changed their business model. Instead deriving the bulk of their revenue from selling cars They make a healthy amount from their servicing and spare parts. :dk:

The only thing MB gets anywhere near the top for is 'cleanliness and atmosphere' otherwise they would be well below par.
Guess those big flashy showrooms pay their way after all...
 

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