Tonygw
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what ever happened to running diesels on chip fat?
Never tried but it was a thing a while ago.
Never tried but it was a thing a while ago.
Who uses ‘V-Power Diesel’....
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By what ?
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We have but some are so adamant that they know better than anyone else.........
If it was so beneficial then fuel companies would have long since claimed the benefits, added it to the blend and charged accordingly.
There are a small number on here who will happily preach about such things purely on anecdotal "evidence"
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It only worked with older diesel engines running with much lower fuel injector pressures.
If you tried in a modern common rail high pressure diesel you would wreck the high pressure injector oimo6.
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It’s much like the supermarket diesel debate David, I’ve used supermarket fuel (Tesco) in various cars (as it’s the most convenient filling station for me) and had zero issues.
I started this thread to ask about the advantages of premium diesel; I was never interested in adding ratios of additives myself as it’s far too inconvenient to be doing every fill (in my opinion) - especially for the sake of a few quid.
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Same here Abs. I’ve been using supermarket fuel consistently since starting driving 31 years ago. Guess what? Zero issues.
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I bet your fuel lines, injectors and DPF are absolutely filthy,...............................................or maybe not !Same here Abs. I’ve been using supermarket fuel consistently since starting driving 31 years ago. Guess what? Zero issues.
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I just think the Supermarket fuel slayers are being anally retentive.
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I mentioned before that the terminology is confusing.
The term 'supermarket fuel' has become synonym for 'cheap basic fuel', wherever bought.
Abb's question regarding premium fuel is a valid one, and most supermarkets will have a premium fuel variant as well (Tesco Momentum is an obvious case-in-point).
So the issue isn't where you buy your fuel - but which nozzle you choose at the pumps.
The term 'supermarket fuel' has become synonym for 'cheap basic fuel', wherever bought.
Abb's question regarding premium fuel is a valid one, and most supermarkets will have a premium fuel variant as well (Tesco Momentum is an obvious case-in-point).
So the issue isn't where you buy your fuel - but which nozzle you choose at the pumps.
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Ratios per additive , it's not even primary school...
Exept it isn't a few quid , it's so deceptive that I tried to acertain what the difference was by visiting a Shell fuel station today and the price would not be displayed till the pump was lifted...
Premium petrol comments creeping in , this is a fancy derv thread .
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I ran a Kia Soul II 1.6L CRDi for 5 years. When I bought it I had concerns regarding the DPF because it was Mrs MJ's car and as such only does around 1,500 miles a year, so I asked on a Kia forum and the advice was to use premium fuel to protect the DPF.
Between 2013 and 2018 the car was filled with nothing else but Shell V-Power Diesel, and never missed a bit. That said, I don't know if it's the premium fuel that did it, or perhaps Kia simply make more durable cars where the DPF doesn't get clogged, while MB didn't quite figure-out how to do this. Or, perhaps it was just pure luck.
Either way, I am not trying to preach the benefits of Shell V-Power here, but to point-out that at this annual mileage the difference in cost would have been around £20-£40 a year (depending on the fuel consumption), and there's no way I'm opening a petrochemical plant at home to save this kind of money - the garden shed can get very cold during winter nights.
Between 2013 and 2018 the car was filled with nothing else but Shell V-Power Diesel, and never missed a bit. That said, I don't know if it's the premium fuel that did it, or perhaps Kia simply make more durable cars where the DPF doesn't get clogged, while MB didn't quite figure-out how to do this. Or, perhaps it was just pure luck.
Either way, I am not trying to preach the benefits of Shell V-Power here, but to point-out that at this annual mileage the difference in cost would have been around £20-£40 a year (depending on the fuel consumption), and there's no way I'm opening a petrochemical plant at home to save this kind of money - the garden shed can get very cold during winter nights.
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So can someone hit me with a Shell diesel V power price ?
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Except it isn't anecdotal because I've got a decade of MOT smoke opacity tests on a now 18 year old 1.9 Euro 3 nearing 190K and can see what it has done .
And this years...
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It's still anecdotal, because it's the MOT history of one car... regardless of how many times it was tested over the years.
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Once again an example that you can explain it to them but you may not understand it for some!
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Some low readings there. Vag 1.9 tdi? My s210 320cdi om613 passed at a reading of 1.04 m-1.
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Many people still use chip fat or waste vegetable oil to fuel indirect injection diesel engines. Particularily old Mercedes diesel engines as they love the stuff. I have used SVO or straight vegetable oil in my w201 190d 2.5 in the past. The injectors run noticeably quieter on veg oil.
WVO is also collected commercially and used to produce Biodiesel which can be used in modern direct injection common rail diesel engines. Regular pump diesel contains a percentage of bio diesel to save the planet.
Not sure if the fancy V power pump diesel contains more or less or no biodiesel compared to regular pump diesel but would be interested to find out as many regard vegetable oil as having cleaning properties. Hence the need to carry replacement fuel filters when using SVO or WVO.
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It's a perfect example of how an urban myth propagates.I just think the Supermarket fuel slayers are being anally retentive.
How many drivers know (or care) that the fuel they buy comes from one of severn UK refineries and is all made to a single standard regardless of who retails it and that the "premium" fuel is just standard fuel with additives?
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V Power Diesel is about 150p per litre my way.
