Who uses ‘V-Power Diesel’....

[Fastcar155]

Hi , I have a Mitsubishi Pajero that when new was run on Japanese super fuels.

Gray import with mileage on 42,000 miles and I purchased the car at 72,000 miles.

The two previous owners who I know ran the car on supermarket fuels and on tickover sounded like a knackered camel.

The car has now done 110,000 miles mostly on Texaco Premium diesel plus other fuel additives.

It is only in the last 10,000 miles that he car ticks over correctly.

I don't believe that premium fuels instantly improve a car that has been run on poor quality fuel but a new car run on premium fuel must help to keep the engine cleaner.

 

[geoffus]

I don't believe that premium fuels instantly improve a car that has been run on poor quality fuel but a new car run on premium fuel must help to keep the engine cleaner.

Where can you buy poor quality fuel, I thought they were all up to Brittain standard and fit for purpose?

 

[markjay]

Where can you buy poor quality fuel, I thought they were all up to Brittain standard and fit for purpose?

I don't think that there's such a thing as 'poor quality fuel' (though fuel can become contaminated during transit or storage). The difference between various fuels is in the additives packs added by the fuel supplier. Shell are the odd-ones-out, claiming that their V-Power fuels are made of proprietary stock, but other than that, all UK fuels are the same base fuel plus the fuel suppliers' proprietary additives, which, incidentally, is where most of the fuel suppliers' R&D goes into.

 

[DSM10000]

Where can you buy poor quality fuel, I thought they were all up to Brittain standard and fit for purpose?

That has pretty much been the point of this end many other threads on the subject.

There are still black marker fuel sales, often Red Diesel where criminals have tried to remove the red dye although it can still be identified with laboratory testing.

 

[DSM10000]

I really cannot understand why some on here cannot grasp the very simple concept that SUPERMARKET FUEL doesn't exist as a separate entity.

I and others have shown many times that it comes from one of the severn refineries in the UK and is made to the SAME standard.

Also, in the last figures I found (2019 I think) 49.3%of fuel was sold from supermarket forecourts.

Now my speciality is not in statistical analysis but its fairly obvious that if "Supermarket fuel existed (i. e it was somehow lower quality, which it is not ) then there would be a huge number of vehicles affected.

 

[OneForTheRoad]

It’s much like the supermarket diesel debate David, I’ve used supermarket fuel (Tesco) in various cars (as it’s the most convenient filling station for me) and had zero issues.

I started this thread to ask about the advantages of premium diesel; I was never interested in adding ratios of additives myself as it’s far too inconvenient to be doing every fill (in my opinion) - especially for the sake of a few quid.

If your car would run on money off codes you'd use that im certain .

 

[ChipChop]

Hi , I have a Mitsubishi Pajero that when new was run on Japanese super fuels.

Gray import with mileage on 42,000 miles and I purchased the car at 72,000 miles.

The two previous owners who I know ran the car on supermarket fuels and on tickover sounded like a knackered camel.

The car has now done 110,000 miles mostly on Texaco Premium diesel plus other fuel additives.

It is only in the last 10,000 miles that he car ticks over correctly.

I don't believe that premium fuels instantly improve a car that has been run on poor quality fuel but a new car run on premium fuel must help to keep the engine cleaner.

Isn't kerosene meant to be an effective fuel system cleaner for diesel engines. Maybe that is the secret ingredient in premium diesel.

 

[OneForTheRoad]

Hi , I have a Mitsubishi Pajero that when new was run on Japanese super fuels.

Gray import with mileage on 42,000 miles and I purchased the car at 72,000 miles.

The two previous owners who I know ran the car on supermarket fuels and on tickover sounded like a knackered camel.

The car has now done 110,000 miles mostly on Texaco Premium diesel plus other fuel additives.

It is only in the last 10,000 miles that he car ticks over correctly.

I don't believe that premium fuels instantly improve a car that has been run on poor quality fuel but a new car run on premium fuel must help to keep the engine cleaner.

Only petrol grey imports run on premium fuels. They are mapped using 99 ron .

 

[Trickythemerc]

I run the odd tank through and do notice a slight increase in MPG and maybe a bit quieter at idle. That said, I get the same results using Costco fuel and Millers Eco wotsit.

 

[Continental]

Every little helps.

Tesco pays out £8m for contaminated fuel

Morrisons: Cars break down at forecourt after drivers fill up

Tesco customers left fuming after garage workers put WATER in diesel pumps causing chaos

Asda apologises after wrong fuel mistake hits motorists

Tesco compensates drivers after dodgy diesel causes engine failure

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Every little helps.

Tesco pays out £8m for contaminated fuel

Morrisons: Cars break down at forecourt after drivers fill up

Tesco customers left fuming after garage workers put WATER in diesel pumps causing chaos

Asda apologises after wrong fuel mistake hits motorists

Tesco compensates drivers after dodgy diesel causes engine failure

Haven’t non-supermarket filling stations had similar issues in the past?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Fuel is one of the most emotive topics on a car-related forum.

We all use the fuel which we believe is best for us and/or our car based upon cost, convenience, perceived quality, perceived benefits of additives, octane rating, etc.

Fortunately, in the UK there is no such thing as a bad choice, as long as you choose the right type of fuel for your car. Everything after that is down to preference.

 

[Continental]

Haven’t non-supermarket filling stations had similar issues in the past?

Perhaps - I did try and find out about Shell fuel forecourt problems (just a quick Google no in depth research) but I didn’t seem to yield any related articles. Please do share though if you have / find any would be good to know.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Perhaps - I did try and find out about Shell fuel forecourt problems (just a quick Google no in depth research) but I didn’t seem to yield any related articles. Please do share though if you have / find any would be good to know.

The short answer is that they do, although I don’t have any links to share unfortunately, Shell are just as capable of making mistakes as Tesco.

Personally I use Shell when I can, as I need high-octane fuel for most of my cars, but when I’m in the South West then filling stations with 99 RON are few and far between.

Tesco also offer 99 RON unleaded and I’m happy to use it in rural areas as it’s often the only option. Esso also now stock 99 RON so that gives me an alternative.

Shell VPower Diesel is different to regular diesel though - at least it used to be - because it’s GTL (Gas to Liquid) fuel.

 

[davymead]

Always use V-Power or it’s Esso equivalent and have for many years.
Years of encountering a never ending stream of customers with DPF problems at the garage have undoubtedly reinforced my belief in preferring to use premium diesel in my cars. The price differential with supermarket fuel is of no consequence in my case.
As always and as said, you pays ya money and ya takes ya chance.

 

[DSM10000]

Haven’t non-supermarket filling stations had similar issues in the past?

You really cannot explain it to a minority on here. They have no grasp of how to carry out research, provide peer reviewed data or understand basic concepts such as "Supermarkets provide around half of the fuel sold in the UK " so it is hardly a revelation if they had a similar proportion of adverse events.

 

[Fastcar155]

Only petrol grey imports run on premium fuels. They are mapped using 99 ron .

Hi , I beg to differ but of course you know better.

 

[DSM10000]

The price differential with supermarket fuel is of no consequence in my case.

You mean fuel sold by Supermarkets I presume?

We have established beyond doubt that it is the same as any other standard fuel and many Supermarkets offer the "Premium" fuels

 

[OneForTheRoad]

Hi , I beg to differ but of course you know better.

Your learning.

 

[DSM10000]

Your learning.

Carry on the good work although I feel it will be a slow process!