Who uses ‘V-Power Diesel’....

[Fastcar155]

That has pretty much been the point of this end many other threads on the subject.

There are still black marker fuel sales, often Red Diesel where criminals have tried to remove the red dye although it can still be identified with laboratory testing.

Hi , totally agree

 

[markjay]

Fuel is one of the most emotive topics on a car-related forum.

We all use the fuel which we believe is best for us and/or our car based upon cost, convenience, perceived quality, perceived benefits of additives, octane rating, etc.

Fortunately, in the UK there is no such thing as a bad choice, as long as you choose the right type of fuel for your car. Everything after that is down to preference.

True... however, the thing is, that (some of) those who use regular fuel ridicule those who buy premium fuel as gullible fools who fall for the marketing hype and pay more for 'exactly the same' product, while (some of) those who use premium fuel look at regular fuel users with astonishment for wrecking their own engines through sheer ignorance.

 

[Deleted member 159894]

I had some supermarket bacon for breakfast, will I die sooner than had I made the effort to buy some organic, fresh from the farm butcher’s bacon?
I feel like the guy in the EE advert now looking at Kevin Bacon and his new phone.

 

[markjay]

The short answer is that they do, although I don’t have any links to share unfortunately, Shell are just as capable of making mistakes as Tesco..

Well, there was the infamous Shell Optimax affair but it was a few years back now (Optimax was the precursor of V-Power).

Any issue with fuel sold at supermarket forecourts is usually one of contamination, either during transport or storage, and not an issue with the quality of the fuel per-se.

I think we can agree that it's unlikely that only supermarkets suffer from fuel contamination issues, so I would hazard a guess that the reason they are in the news is due to the high volume of sales, meaning that a contaminated underground storage tank will affect very many cars in a short space if time and wreck very many engines.

Ordinary filling station will have much lower footfall in comparison, and a contamination issue at the pumps will affect a smaller number of cars before it's detected, and therefore unlikely to make the headlines. Just a guess.

 

[geoffus]

Having read all arguments for and against premium fuels I will be filling up, for the first time ever, with shell V power next time.
I doubt i will notice any cleaning advantages initially but look forward to a quieter and more lively engine. I will report back any findings, placebo of otherwise.

 

[davymead]

You mean fuel sold by Supermarkets I presume?

We have established beyond doubt that it is the same as any other standard fuel and many Supermarkets offer the "Premium" fuels

‘Base’ fuel from the refinery in this country is manufactured to a BS.
What you pump into your tank at a fuel station isn’t necessarily the same.

 

[markjay]

‘Base’ fuel from the refinery in this country is manufactured to a BS.
What you pump into your tank at a fuel station isn’t necessarily the same.

True, but while you can be sure that the additives pack that goes into premium fuel is more advanced that the one that goes into regular fuel, the issue is that there's no way of comparing same type of fuels from different brands.

Esso regular, Shell regular, BP regular, Tesco regular, etc, all use the same base fuel but with different additives - and there's no way for a consumer to know which one is 'better' than the other.

The oil companies' marketing material is usually vague and concentrates on brand image and loyalty rewards rather on explaining the technical benefits of their-brand fuel over the others.

 

[GeeJayW]

Well, there was the infamous Shell Optimax affair but it was a few years back now (Optimax was the precursor of V-Power).

Any issue with fuel sold at supermarket forecourts is usually one of contamination, either during transport or storage, and not an issue with the quality of the fuel per-se.

I think we can agree that it's unlikely that only supermarkets suffer from fuel contamination issues, so I would hazard a guess that the reason they are in the news is due to the high volume of sales, meaning that a contaminated underground storage tank will affect very many cars in a short space if time and wreck very many engines.

Ordinary filling station will have much lower footfall in comparison, and a contamination issue at the pumps will affect a smaller number of cars before it's detected, and therefore unlikely to make the headlines. Just a guess.

There were problems in the mid to late ‘80s with Formula Shell (leaded) in some vehicles.

I‘m not aware of problems with Shell Optimax.

 

[DSM10000]

‘Base’ fuel from the refinery in this country is manufactured to a BS.
What you pump into your tank at a fuel station isn’t necessarily the same.

I am more than aware of this as I have posted this several times

I have also stated that each retailer adds their own mix of chemical additives to the base fuel.

 

[OneForTheRoad]

I am more than aware of this as I have posted this several times

I have also stated that each retailer adds their own mix of chemical additives to the base fuel.

Do they do a mix called Hong Kong fooey for the land of the rising sun imports ?

 

[DSM10000]

Do they do a mix called Hong Kong fooey for the land of the rising sun imports ?

That's a dim sum question!

 

[davymead]

I am more than aware of this as I have posted this several times

I have also stated that each retailer adds their own mix of chemical additives to the base fuel.

I’m pleased we agree.

 

[DSM10000]

I’m pleased we agree.

I thought you had disagreed?

Mind you there have been so many ill-informed responses on this subject I was loosing the will!

 

[ChipChop]

As an aside i wonder what diesel fuel the Le Mans winning Audi TDi's used? Anyone know.

 

[davymead]

As an aside i wonder what diesel fuel the Le Mans Audi TDi's used? Anyone know.

Possibly not Tesco.

 

[DSM10000]

A

Possibly not Tesco.

Asda?

 

[ChipChop]

According to Wikipedia they were sponsored by Shell so they used V power GTL diesel, on the R10 Tdi at least. Not used chip fat the spoil sports.

 

[Continental]

As an aside i wonder what diesel fuel the Le Mans winning Audi TDi's used? Anyone know.

“As a development partner, Shell was involved in the R10 TDI project from the outset”

With TDI power and GTL diesel fuel in the Ardennes

On the Whitsun weekend, the Audi R10 TDI will make its racing début at Spa-Francorchamps, on one of the world’s most demanding race tracks. For Audi, the race in the Belgian Ardennes is more than just the third round of the Le Mans Series: with every racing kilometre, valuable know-how is being...

www.audi-mediacenter.com

 

[GeeJayW]

As an aside i wonder what diesel fuel the Le Mans winning Audi TDi's used? Anyone know.

Shell V-Power Diesel

 

[Deleted member 113659]

Having read all arguments for and against premium fuels I will be filling up, for the first time ever, with shell V power next time.
I doubt i will notice any cleaning advantages initially but look forward to a quieter and more lively engine. I will report back any findings, placebo of otherwise.

I’ll join you in trying the Shell V Power Diesel.