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He might have been paying better attention and realised his error so moved to the inside lane, or gone at a more appropriate speed for the middle lane so as not to be an inconvenience.

True....but some still equate holding the mobile phone as the problem...holding the conversation is the problem. Use of all mobile phones in car of what ever type should be banned.
 
renault12ts said:
True....but some still equate holding the mobile phone as the problem...holding the conversation is the problem. Use of all mobile phones in car of what ever type should be banned.
I totally agree. But then I'm an old codger in my 70th year who's managed to drive for over 50 years without the desperate need to hold a phone conversation at the same time. All those years of driving have given me the ridiculous notion that concentrating on driving is more important. Silly old fool.

Before anyone asks, yes I would be more than prepared to take a retest and medical to prove that I'm still fit to drive. But I'd want the test to be meaningful and not just a copy of the frankly pathetic new driver test. I'd expect it to be to a higher standard to reflect the improved abilities I should have gained over the years. And I'd want the medical to be real and not an Admin Assistant ticking off a checklist after getting me to read a number plate across the road and checking my heart rate with a Boots meter strapped to my wrist.
 
I totally agree. But then I'm an old codger in my 70th year who's managed to drive for over 50 years without the desperate need to hold a phone conversation at the same time. All those years of driving have given me the ridiculous notion that concentrating on driving is more important. Silly old fool.

And credit to you:thumb:. Not as old as you (still in my 40's) but I adopt a similar attitude to you. When driving, that's what I'm concentrating on.
Which is a good example that age is not the issue it is whether the driver is willing to adopt a responsible attitude.

On the other hand, someone who is so old that they are unable to concentrate or see the road ahead clearly is no different to someone who decides to drink and drive. That's just not acting responsibly.

There isn't a given age when you are too old to drive. We all age differently physically. But everyone is capable of making the decision whether it is responsible to drive.
 
But everyone is capable of making the decision whether it is responsible to drive.

Unfortunately not, in the case of dementia etc.
 
Pontoneer. Was It Harry Clark who drove a DustCart ? He would have held an HGV license, Public Service Vehicle licences were originally mandatory for passenger carrying vehicle drivers, ie Buses and Coaches,although I think these days the PSV is known by another name, but that certainly was how things were.
 

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