All C43 AMG owners - What shall I do?

[DRIVER200]

People keep pointing us at the Ackerman theory and expect GLC owners ...



There you go - Blaming the FAULT on some Maths = Point proven

No, no, no - it's a car with 4 wheels, it's a family car for carrying friends and family, we didn't go into the dealers and ask if the car suffers from the Ackerman effect. In all the years of buying cars I've never had a conversation about the Ackerman theory, and I guess you haven't either ( wondering if you might be an MB salesman )

These GLC's are mostly 170 / 200 bhp family cars that should drive sensibly and normally. The Porsche issue is different - it's tyre skipping when pulling away under power. Porsche customers live with compromise as they want high speed stability from their performance cars.

10's of Millions or cars - most with 4 wheels - drive perfectly smoothly and DO NOT suffer from Ackerman, even though they potentially could as they have 4 wheels. The manufacturers design to minimize or eliminate it.

Please stop defending what is obviously a FAULT - MB UK have actually admitted as much but don't appear to be prepared to fix it.

Tony

Hey I'm not defending the fault as this really is a phenomenon but the minor crabbing in itself is not the problem here its the significant cluncking/judderng I think that owners are concerned about; and rightly so. I still believe minor crabbing is here to stay but the cluncking/juddering has to be addressed pretty damn quick Mr MB CEO hope you are listening.

 

[DRIVER200]

It was from a member with display name JBD, self declared as a Mercedes-Benz Salesman from Norfolk. He or She shared a memo in which it was stated that those who already taken delivery of a car and have expressed a concern will get an update by 17th February 2017.

Thanks. The clock is ticking towards midnight. How will the info hit this thread are we dependent of particular owners to update us all?

 

[dejongj]

Thanks. The clock is ticking towards midnight. How will the info hit this thread are we dependent of particular owners to update us all?

If we hear anything we'll let the threads know. But I am not counting on there be some great announcement.

 

[DRIVER200]

If we hear anything we'll let the threads know. But I am not counting on there be some great announcement.

I hope you are wrong as I am looking for a reason to start a new Thread entitled Mercedes Bends......

 

[dejongj]

BTW All still well with your C43? We are seeing more and more registering on the site.

 

[DRIVER200]

BTW All still well with your C43? We are seeing more and more registering on the site.

Actually I haven't really had significant crabbing but to be fair its probably my driving routine that has kept me away from full-locking and mini roundabouts etc.. as usually I don't encounter these very often. No doubt it would all change if I put it to the test one cold morning. Its interesting but as you may remember I did take my particular car for a test drive soon after it arrived and yes I did get mini-crabbing at the dealership but then took it for a test drive to a nearby car park and all was well. Assuming this was due to the tyres having warmed up so I'm puzzled by some owners who have travelled many miles but still encounter this problem. I really do like the car its all it should be except for this problem. I will be surprised if MB continue to ignore it as the snowball effect could be very damaging for them financially because before too long someone with mucho clouto will get involved -maybe a celebrity or two- and bang game over.

 

[dejongj]

Actually I haven't really had significant crabbing but to be fair its probably my driving routine that has kept me away from full-locking and mini roundabouts etc.. as usually I don't encounter these very often. No doubt it would all change if I put it to the test one cold morning. Its interesting but as you may remember I did take my particular car for a test drive soon after it arrived and yes I did get mini-crabbing at the dealership but then took it for a test drive to a nearby car park and all was well. Assuming this was due to the tyres having warmed up so I'm puzzled by some owners who have travelled many miles but still encounter this problem. I really do like the car its all it should be except for this problem. I will be surprised if MB continue to ignore it as the snowball effect could be very damaging for them financially because before too long someone with mucho clouto will get involved -maybe a celebrity or two- and bang game over.

My daughter wants me to get Bryson Tiller involved as apparently he has got an AMG version I was like who?

 

[DRIVER200]

My daughter wants me to get Bryson Tiller involved as apparently he has got an AMG version I was like who?

Yes this is exactly the type of exposure this problem needs. Momentum, momentum and more momentum.

 

[Richtw]

Well today is the 17th..... Mercedes announcement day! Wonder what they will say?

 

[dejongj]

Yes this is exactly the type of exposure this problem needs. Momentum, momentum and more momentum.

I've got my dress ready for that day :bannana:

 

[Richtw]

Forget the dress look how bad the wear is on those tyres...

 

[dejongj]

Forget the dress look how bad the wear is on those tyres...

Yes and according to the Mercedes Benz UK CEO Gary Savage it is not a safety issue 4,500 miles.

 

[John Jones Jr]

You should send those tyres to the manufacturer implying they are defective and not fit for purpose. A report from them would be very worthwhile having.

 

[dannycotw]

You should send those tyres to the manufacturer implying they are defective and not fit for purpose. A report from them would be very worthwhile having.

I understand why you're suggesting this, however, I think most likely the tyre manufacturer would examine the tyres, not find any manufacturing defects and report back as such. They would be unlikely to state it is a 'fault' with the car causing the wear patterns. They would probably just refer you back to MB. So although you would be able to rule out a defect with the tyre, I'm not sure how it would help with finding a resolution to the underlying mechanical situation.

 

[dejongj]

VOSA/DVSA Has got the various reports as well.
Mercedes CEO office have got them as well.
The dealer has got them as well.

VOSA/DVSA will take time
Mercedes keeps on with the same message telling me when and how I experience it and that it is not a safety issue.

 

[c43amg84]

My car is going into Mercedes on Monday - I will report back on what they say...

 

[John Jones Jr]

@ danny

Yes and no. They would I imagine suggest why they wore so quickly and in the manner they have - be it alignment, terrain, general abuse etc, etc. And of course if they state there is nothing wrong with the tyre (as in it's construction) it could be concluded that it's either owners driving style or the car itself.

Regardless, at this stage I don't think owners have anything to lose.

 

[dannycotw]

@ danny Yes and no. They would I imagine suggest why they wore so quickly and in the manner they have - be it alignment, terrain, general abuse etc, etc. And of course if they state there is nothing wrong with the tyre (as in it's construction) it could be concluded that it's either owners driving style or the car itself. Regardless, at this stage I don't think owners have anything to lose.

Fair point

 

[DRIVER200]

Be interested to know if there are any GLC/C 4Matic owners that are actually getting normal wear from their tyres. In my case haven't done sufficient mileage to know either way but my impression -perhaps naively- is that if you are not experiencing significant problems then you should expect your tyres to show normal wear?

 

[DRIVER200]

Well today is the 17th..... Mercedes announcement day! Wonder what they will say?

I feel mildly enthusiastic about the upcoming MB announcement as I find it hard to believe that they will just repeat that winter tyres will ease/cure the problem as clearly this is not the case; pity no one has had a chance to put this theory to the test but it doesn't really matter. I have had many cars over the years and never encountered a problem like this so hard to remember what other manufacturers have done when finding themselves with this type of problem. But after all is said and done MB is a billion dollar company and want to stay that way and reputation is king in business.