Blue Efficiency injector recall?

[Pottsy]

Rothbury,

With all due respect, the key to these new 4 pot BE engines is their versatility.

Conventionally you can have a quick car that is thirsty all the time, or an economical car that is slow all the time. These BE cars can be quick, or they can be economical. Some days mood or circumstance dictate a prominence of one technique, other days not. Perfect!

 

[Wayfarer]

That is indeed impressive but I have to say that if you are going to ENJOY this powerful car you will get probably 44/45 on an auto. I can't see the point in buying a 250 with 201 bhp and 369 torque if fuel economy is your
main concern! I could am sure do a lot better if I crept around all the time but that totally defeats the point of the car which IMHO is the ability to drive fast and still get reasonable consumption. Otherwise frankly we may as well all be driving VW polo diesels.

I certainly use the performance and don't hang around and am throughly enjoying the car.

Even when driven in an exuberant fashion it still returns much better than 40mpg at that's with the hills etc in the Peak District it goes extremly well, acceleration is outstanding which I suppose is what you get with all the torque and 200+ BHP. Although it doesn't goes round corners as well as my previous BMW, it's a damm site more comfortable and much better after a long day behind the wheel

 

[simongaff]

Seems to be a big variation on mpg! Shall see what the trip says when the mrs gets back from Yorkshire.

 

[Wayfarer]

Rothbury,

With all due respect, the key to these new 4 pot BE engines is their versatility.

Conventionally you can have a quick car that is thirsty all the time, or an economical car that is slow all the time. These BE cars can be quick, or they can be economical. Some days mood or circumstance dictate a prominence of one technique, other days not. Perfect!

VERSALILITY That's probably the best way anyone has described this car and engine - thanks for that

 

[CDL]

Hi All,
first time on here thought I'd just fill you in on our experiences as first time MB owners. Our C220 CDI BE Sport Estate was delivered in late Nov, 2 weeks later we "ran out of fuel" very late at night, despite having a quarter tank left! Last month we had the dreaded injector failure leaving myself, wife and 11month old at the side of the road. 5 days later the car was returned but immediately had to go back to have the radiator fan connected. The next day it started to make a loud "pinking" noise but the misses persuaded me to keep it for a few days and see how it went! After 5 days it got much worse and was down on power. So back it went! MB tried to suggest it was bad fuel despite flushing the tank and the problem still remaining! They have fitted more new injectors and we have the car back, so far so good (only 2days). MB have sent fuel samples and the old "new" injectors back to Germany for analysis.
We're just in the process of negotiating compensation after very nearly handing the car back. So far they have offered a free service and 1months finance payment. Frankly not good enough!

On the subject of fuel consumption we rarely break 34mpg normally (lots of in town driving) and have never better 45 on the motorway (80mph normally) even with the new "new" injectors.

Just one final thing does anyone get a shake or wobble through the steering column similar to scuttle shake in a convertible. Dealer says its normal but its driving me mad!!!

Thanks

I'm sorry but 34mpg around town and 45mpg @ 80 mph is not acceptable on a new 'eco' engine when my 07 plate BMW 320D estate did better from day 1. It did 36-37mpg around town and 49mpg @ 80 mph on a motorway. These were bang on the urban and combined figures for the BMW. Therefore, under the same conditions it is reasonable to expect the Merc figures of 42.8mpg (urban) and 55mpg (combined) for the manual. Figures of which you and I are woefully short!

 

[oldmovieguy]

Had a call from a MB call centre yesterday advising me that my five month old E 220 CDI is now subject to a 'P148 injector recall'.

 

[G.O'Rilla]

I'm sorry but 34mpg around town and 45mpg @ 80 mph is not acceptable on a new 'eco' engine when my 07 plate BMW 320D estate did better from day 1. It did 36-37mpg around town and 49mpg @ 80 mph on a motorway. These were bang on the urban and combined figures for the BMW. Therefore, under the same conditions it is reasonable to expect the Merc figures of 42.8mpg (urban) and 55mpg (combined) for the manual. Figures of which you and I are woefully short!

However, those figures are pretty close to what I get on my (auto) C Class estate. Latest average over 11924 miles is 46.37 in mixed driving. The point was made above, the engine is versatile and I doubt that even an untouchable BMW would give high MPG with a heavy right foot. Anyway, it is a matter of personal choice - I am completely happy with both the performance (acceleration even at autobahn speeds) and the overall economy. I'm not going to go storming through Germany in three figures and expect 50MPG........

Also as a side note, I'm really glad that I have never seen a BMW hearse, because I wouldn't be seen dead in one*

*That was a joke, by the way

 

[fletch]

just heard, e250 cdi sport coupe confirmed for 15th JUly

 

[Royston Vasey]

Received notification that car is being recalled.

2 weeks ago I took my Dec registered E250 to the local MB dealership to have a puncture repaired and whilst there was informed that the car was subject to a recall to have the injectors replaced. No problem, when can you do it I asked? I'll just check to make sure we have the replacement parts in stock, we don't, sorry I'll have to order them. They will be delivered by Mon 24th when would you like to have the work done? I said Tuesday 25th would be fine, OK we'll collect the car from your home.

Car collected on time by very pleasant man and off it went 2 hours later received call from the dealers service department to say that they had the wrong part and I would need to reschedule a new date to have them fitted.

Why can't Services provide just that.....SERVICE.

Surely it can't be too difficult to check the day before that you have the right parts for the job's you have scheduled to do the next day, and if you haven't to let the customer know that the work needs to be postponed, and if they can't why not give the customer some small compensation like 10% off a service, that would definitely focus their attention to detail of customers needs.:bannana:

 

[Rory]

To be fair, if they collected and delivered then it's hardly huge inconvenience. My dealer "forgot" to do some service work and didn't even say sorry. They won't collect and deliver so it's, realistically, a 2hr round trip for me. Plus they kept me standing around waiting to see someone for 20 mins.

 

[pipehose]

had my car in today for 5 recalls think they were 1 injector replacement 2 software update 3 wiring harness check in engine compartment 4 relay replaced 5 wax or new weather seals treated or replaced not sure what the last one was about

 

[woodpecker]

Fuel injectors ?re-fitted?

Just saw many used E200/220/250's BE advertised on the MB website. Till yesterday, there were only a few of these and in fact hardly any 200 or 220's. Does this mean the dealers have stopped 'hoarding' them implying they have been 're-fitted' with new injectors?

Most of these are 09/59 plate whilst there are a few 10 plates as well.


Hmm....very interesting> Obviously looking to buy a nearly new E class!

Any thoughts from the learned members of this forum?

Thanks

 

[HumberMart]

Can only recommend them. I've had my 220 for just over 6 months now, and know that whatever I change to next will be less economical, poorer riding, less comfortable, and noisier.

Sure I've had one or two silly niggles, in addition to the changed injectors (prior to failure in my case), but how can you not like a car that is so refined, safe and comfortable, enjoyable enough to drive, and amazingly economical.

I did a 500 mile return trip last week, 3 up with luggage, during rush hour motorway conditions (lots of stop starts) and some urban work, and it averaged 52 mpg over the whole journey. Not bad for a big auto saloon eh? !!

 

[gilberto]

Recall

Had my injectors replaced on my E250cdi under warranty,I was lucky I suppose, as the other never let me down
Now with the new ones fitted, I get what appears to be a ticking noise under accelartion initially.
Is this normal? Car seems to perform well!

 

[woodpecker]

For some reason...all the E200/220 BE's have disappeared overnight from the MB used car website!

 

[ibiza130bikes]

Had my injectors replaced on my E250cdi under warranty,I was lucky I suppose, as the other never let me down
Now with the new ones fitted, I get what appears to be a ticking noise under accelartion initially.
Is this normal? Car seems to perform well!

Hi. Not posted before but what you wrote reminded me of issues I had on my E250CDI Est. Had the injectors replaced on the Wednesday under recall, next day noticed a ticking / pinking type noise. Got the dealer to check it and they said it was fine. Couple of days later driving back home on a Sunday I noticed the engine was idling poorly and the car smelt. Further on I accerlerated and there was a huge noise that sounded like a big end had gone... Stopped car with wife and two kids in it and noticed what I thought was oil. Turned out is was diesel and when recovery turned up they noticed one of the injectors had broken apart. Anyway, clearly it was the fault which has since taken MB almost 3 weeks to sort out. Now it wont hold its charge and needs a new alternator...still waiting on a date for it to come back. Cars done 3.2k miles. Was also taken in for a replacement rear tailgate light cluster that had broken away. To be honest I like the car, but this doesnt fill me with confidence having never owned a Merc and was expecting much more from them. Fingers crossed for trouble free motoring, but get that noise checked out mate.

 

[gilberto]

Thanks,have been back to MB dealer and they tell me it fine,it will settle down in time!
I have argued but they will not accept any responsibility as they say the car drives fine,which it does.

 

[rothbury]

Hi. Not posted before but what you wrote reminded me of issues I had on my E250CDI Est. Had the injectors replaced on the Wednesday under recall, next day noticed a ticking / pinking type noise. Got the dealer to check it and they said it was fine. Couple of days later driving back home on a Sunday I noticed the engine was idling poorly and the car smelt. Further on I accerlerated and there was a huge noise that sounded like a big end had gone... Stopped car with wife and two kids in it and noticed what I thought was oil. Turned out is was diesel and when recovery turned up they noticed one of the injectors had broken apart. Anyway, clearly it was the fault which has since taken MB almost 3 weeks to sort out. Now it wont hold its charge and needs a new alternator...still waiting on a date for it to come back. Cars done 3.2k miles. Was also taken in for a replacement rear tailgate light cluster that had broken away. To be honest I like the car, but this doesnt fill me with confidence having never owned a Merc and was expecting much more from them. Fingers crossed for trouble free motoring, but get that noise checked out mate.

You certainly have my sympathy and I hope it is soon sorted out.
Judging from the silence on what was once the busiest thread I can only assume that like mine most of the cars affected or potentially at risk have received new injectors and are fine. It appears that you have been very unlucky . How on earth does a tail light cluster "break away"?

 

[GLKKa2H]

MBClub UK has managed to obtain some internal documents - We can confirm that 1,154 vehicles are affected in the UK (excluding grey and parallel imports)

These were sent to us anonymously. (you need to be a resistered member to see the attachments)

Firstly - thank you very much for the two attachments!

As all the OM651 engine owners apparently have, in excitement, been awaiting a report on an injector breakdown, manufacture date as of 09303, I may now have relief to the wet dreams:bannana:
On a German GLK forum, an 220 CDI owner reported an engine warning situation and breakdown on 18. June. On my request he kindly offered to report back the outcome from the analysis of the engine at the dealership, and possibly the date of -, given an injector failure.

And sure enough, this day he was called upon from dealership, with confirmation of broken injector (cylinder #1), with follow damages like cylinder, piston etc. The manufacture date of the injector is reported to be "1. Quarter 2010", translated from German. Decision made by the "Hersteller" (MB?) is to replace the engine.

So where are all (of us) the OM651 owners now

 

[rothbury]

Firstly - thank you very much for the two attachments!

As all the OM651 engine owners apparently have, in excitement, been awaiting a report on an injector breakdown, manufacture date as of 09303, I may now have relief to the wet dreams:bannana:
On a German GLK forum, an 220 CDI owner reported an engine warning situation and breakdown on 18. June. On my request he kindly offered to report back the outcome from the analysis of the engine at the dealership, and possibly the date of -, given an injector failure.

And sure enough, this day he was called upon from dealership, with confirmation of broken injector (cylinder #1), with follow damages like cylinder, piston etc. The manufacture date of the injector is reported to be "1. Quarter 2010", translated from German. Decision made by the "Hersteller" (MB?) is to replace the engine.

So where are all (of us) the OM651 owners now

I don't think we need worry about ONE failure!