Calling on W212 E63 owners

[st4]

True, but the point that Andy was making that on his prior PCPs on new C63s the initial depreciation was not so savage and as such terminating the PCP making up any negative equity (if any) was not a costly affair to get out of. With the E63 the shortfall to make up would be higher.

Its not how I'd choose to buy/finance a car, but it stacks up for someone with a high income who does not want to commit a lot of capital (relatively) who likes a new motor every few months.

I for one would drop £40k in 2 years time on a used E63 and rock around in that.

 

[Palmball]

Sorry OP for the O/T but I don't get the confusion here.

Even if you take two brand new cars with one depreciating at double the rate of the other....the one that depreciates the most will have a high monthly PCP cost (as the final payment will be set suitably lower than the other car) and will also be the more expensive one to get out of early on, despite the greater amounts you're paying each month.

This is because the depreciation is not linear across the term - it's at a greater rate earlier in the term and generally is more than the monthly payment for a certain period (depending on type and age of car)

As you get further into the term, it starts to level out and eventually the payments overtake the depreciation. Therefore, a faster depreciating car bought on a PCP (or any finance for that matter) will be a lot more expensive to get out of early on in the term than one that doesn't depreciate as quickly.

I tend to always keep to the same monthly cost whatever I have with the variable being the deposit. If I can't afford the deposit to keep the monthly cost the same then I can't afford the car. As my deposits are often quite significant (circa 20-30%) I am never at risk of negative equity but a slower depreciating car protects more of my deposit for my next car.

As an example, with the Porsche I'll get back 85% of the deposit that I paid after the finance is settled so the only cost of the car to me was the 4 monthly payments that I made plus 15% of my initial deposit.

 

[Bits G]

Thanks guys for the good words, much appreciated!



Happy days! Small start for the E63 owner club, but that's a start! What specs did you go for?



Hi cpd1, long story with my car, it actually arrived three months ago at the dealership, BUT, they messed up the spec on the seats I had ordered!!!! I had already negotiated a discount (6%) when I first ordered, after this major ****-up by the dealer I managed to wangle another 5k worth of optional extras and got them to pay the difference in VAT!!!

so spec is
obsidian black
designo cream interior
red calipers
full carbon interior trim
alcantara headlining with pan roof - have to have if you want a diff. interior colour
dynamic multi contour seats - heated - cooling with massage
auto boot close
harmon kardon logic 7
DAB radio
Tyre pressure monitoring
Rear side airbags
Phone pre wire
Boot lid spoiler (body coloured)
Luxury pack
Garage door opener

I have probably missed something!!

The original car went back to them and had to be treated as a used car, I had only driven it once and took it back the next day!!!

Can't wait till this beast arrives, noise is fantastic!

 

[Simon_M]

Only in the eyes of dhard, but his view is not important.


Its good mrs Mika finds C63 uncomfortable. Means she

a) wont drive it
b) wont want to travel in it meaning you can enjoy the car in peace.

That's a result, my Mrs prefers mine over hers and if I am not up early on a Saturday it's gone! Real pain as my golf clubs don't fit in hers!

I would have loved an E63 estate, there was one in the dealer when I ordered mine but the 20K+ price differential between the two was just too much for my moth eaten wallet. The E63 definitely looks a lot more subtle than the C63. But since the launch of the E63 Mercedes have really priced their AMG models high. I even wonder if the facelift C63 will have a significant price increase.

S

 

[amgmaster]

Thanks guys for the good words, much appreciated!



Happy days! Small start for the E63 owner club, but that's a start! What specs did you go for?



Hi cpd1, long story with my car, it actually arrived three months ago at the dealership, BUT, they messed up the spec on the seats I had ordered!!!! I had already negotiated a discount (6%) when I first ordered, after this major ****-up by the dealer I managed to wangle another 5k worth of optional extras and got them to pay the difference in VAT!!!

so spec is
obsidian black
designo cream interior
red calipers
full carbon interior trim
alcantara headlining with pan roof - have to have if you want a diff. interior colour
dynamic multi contour seats - heated - cooling with massage
auto boot close
harmon kardon logic 7
DAB radio
Tyre pressure monitoring
Rear side airbags
Phone pre wire
Boot lid spoiler (body coloured)
Luxury pack
Garage door opener

I have probably missed something!!

The original car went back to them and had to be treated as a used car, I had only driven it once and took it back the next day!!!

Can't wait till this beast arrives, noise is fantastic!

did you not want the performance pack?

 

[Bits G]

Toyed with the idea, but the 911 turbo is my real track day tool, so didn't go for it, saved a few pennies!

 

[mika]

Its good mrs Mika finds C63 uncomfortable. Means she

a) wont drive it
b) wont want to travel in it meaning you can enjoy the car in peace.

Haha ! not so *** she likes driving it especially in sport mode (makes it a bit more lively , apparently ) its being a passenger shes not wild about - probably my driving style

 

[st4]

Haha ! not so *** she likes driving it especially in sport mode (makes it a bit more lively , apparently ) its being a passenger shes not wild about - probably my driving style

I once let my ex GF drive my Mercedes, and it was only an E220cdi.

Never again. Captains seat for me everytime.

 

[cpd1]

Hi Bits G,

Sorry for delay, been tad busy. Nice deal you got, worked nicely they messed up your first order
Your spec is pretty much mirroring mine.
Same exterior colour/ Designo Sand. Liked the cream but was concerned about keeping it spotless with the littles ones....

Got exactly same options ex full carbon, added the rear view camera, the easy pack thingy and the de-badge at the rear.

Luxury pack is pricey but really makes the interior looks special.
Agree on the noise, it is actually addictive!

Thanks guys for the good words, much appreciated!

so spec is
obsidian black
designo cream interior
red calipers
full carbon interior trim
alcantara headlining with pan roof - have to have if you want a diff. interior colour
dynamic multi contour seats - heated - cooling with massage
auto boot close
harmon kardon logic 7
DAB radio
Tyre pressure monitoring
Rear side airbags
Phone pre wire
Boot lid spoiler (body coloured)
Luxury pack
Garage door opener

I have probably missed something!!

The original car went back to them and had to be treated as a used car, I had only driven it once and took it back the next day!!!

Can't wait till this beast arrives, noise is fantastic!

 

[Schuey]

This thread could do with some nice pics of the E63 AMG

 

[Bits G]

This thread could do with some nice pics of the E63 AMG

Six weeks to go!!

 

[cpd1]

This thread could do with some nice pics of the E63 AMG

12 weeks to go!

 

[Bits G]

My car is here, will be picking her up on THURSDAY:bannana: Pics to follow!

 

[Bits G]

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS!!! Just had a call from my dealer, we have a serious issue with your car. The valeter STOLE my car last night put 100 miles on it and brought it back to the dealership this morning. As I am well known at this dealership, they knew I would not accept the car. I am totally furious, I have been waiting 1 year for this car. The valeter is being charged with theft and is spending the day in jail at the moment!!!

The dealership are now having to re-order my car AGAIN!!!!!! however, silver lining, I will be getting the new 5.5 twin turbo engine, the car will arrive in sept. They are also going to provide me with a brand new car to use until my one arrives and the price is being reduced even further!

I don't think I am destined to have this car!

 

[cpd1]

Wow. Incredible story, certainly nice to be bumped to the new 5.5 TT. Impressive service from your dealership, not positive all of them would have been as forthcoming...

 

[C240Sport97]

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS!!! Just had a call from my dealer, we have a serious issue with your car. The valeter STOLE my car last night put 100 miles on it and brought it back to the dealership this morning. As I am well known at this dealership, they knew I would not accept the car. I am totally furious, I have been waiting 1 year for this car. The valeter is being charged with theft and is spending the day in jail at the moment!!!

The dealership are now having to re-order my car AGAIN!!!!!! however, silver lining, I will be getting the new 5.5 twin turbo engine, the car will arrive in sept. They are also going to provide me with a brand new car to use until my one arrives and the price is being reduced even further!

I don't think I am destined to have this car!

All in all .. great that the Valeter did what he did. Silver lining and all that

 

[Bits G]

Wow. Incredible story, certainly nice to be bumped to the new 5.5 TT. Impressive service from your dealership, not positive all of them would have been as forthcoming...

I have dealt with them for years and the bills for my old W124 220 totalled 22k alone, nevermind the money I spent on the E36. My family and I are always buying Mercs from them, so it is improtant to them to keep me happy! Customer service as it should be.

 

[Simon_M]

Is the valeter mental? why risk your job and jail for a 100mile 'Ferris Bueller' special?

 

[amgmaster]

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS!!! Just had a call from my dealer, we have a serious issue with your car. The valeter STOLE my car last night put 100 miles on it and brought it back to the dealership this morning. As I am well known at this dealership, they knew I would not accept the car. I am totally furious, I have been waiting 1 year for this car. The valeter is being charged with theft and is spending the day in jail at the moment!!!

The dealership are now having to re-order my car AGAIN!!!!!! however, silver lining, I will be getting the new 5.5 twin turbo engine, the car will arrive in sept. They are also going to provide me with a brand new car to use until my one arrives and the price is being reduced even further!

I don't think I am destined to have this car!

amazing what people will do to drive a AMG these days.

 

[ironsheik]

Is the valeter mental? why risk your job and jail for a 100mile 'Ferris Bueller' special?

I agree, Why would you do this? It does'nt make sense..