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you're a dreamer !
No replacement for displacement !
Now thats made me chuckle
E63 reduced for quick sale
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Now thats made me chuckle
V12
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Having driven the Golf R, it is a serious weapon for a little hatch back. It may not have the outright pace that the A45 has out of the box but it is much more refined and spacious. I would take a Golf R over a 45 AMG any day.
It's obviously not comparable to an E63 and I think some of you guys are giving the OP a hard time. He hasn't said he's upgrading or anything like that.
Some of the reports on the web show the real world mpg of the Golf R to be over 30mpg. Not the 41mpg that VW claim, but some of the guys do get well over 40 on a steady motorway run.
That will be a big improvement over a 63 AMG.
It's obviously not comparable to an E63 and I think some of you guys are giving the OP a hard time. He hasn't said he's upgrading or anything like that.
Some of the reports on the web show the real world mpg of the Golf R to be over 30mpg. Not the 41mpg that VW claim, but some of the guys do get well over 40 on a steady motorway run.
That will be a big improvement over a 63 AMG.
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If you look at post 46, I clearly state it's not as good as an AMG. I have both cars , I know the difference.Very much relaxed. He who thinks a Golf is a replacement for an AMG must be a bell shamp.
Must of missed your reply, I guess I didn't see which way ya golf went. Rapid innit.
All I am saying is that a tuned Golf R is a great drive and a serious weapon but no match for a real AMG.
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HB said:
I agree with you there mate, they are very well built little cars, defiantly not something you compare to an AMG but still a very lovely car.
I however wouldn't pick one over an A45 though but that's me, I love any AMG!
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Personally I think I'd have a Golf R over an A45
But then again I haven't been in or around either.
But then again I haven't been in or around either.
V12
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Don't confuse build quality with reliability.
No doubt VW are no where near as reliable as they once were but the fit and finish of their cars out of the box is very impressive. Go and look at a brand new polo and compare solely the build quality to something else in that price bracket.
Surprised you were underwhelmed by the pace of the Golf R...must have had a slow driver behind the wheel.
I opened it up on a very familiar road that I have taken a couple of 55 kompressors down and a couple of bi turbo V12s. Up to the national speed limit it would have kept with those big mercs. I think a lot of that has to do with the speed of the shifts, which makes up for the power deficit in a big way.
If you plant your foot at 60mph or upwards then the AMG cars are on another level, no doubt.
My friend says he's going for the Revo 370ish bhp remap. He's all talk though. If he eventually does then i'll be in that drivers seat to report back to you!
And all i said was its a bit optimistic to say you're gonna love a golf after a e63, obviously hb took great offense from this comment and decided to talk the kind of bull id expect on a corsa forum. 
On a related note these golf r's are everywhere. I must of seen 8 in a week. A golf r wud be the last choice if i was after a fast hatch, but thats me.
On a related note these golf r's are everywhere. I must of seen 8 in a week. A golf r wud be the last choice if i was after a fast hatch, but thats me.
V12
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It's because they are so cheap. For a while they were only a touch over £200 per month on a 2 year lease.
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OMG that is cheap, would be hard to find cheaper if you want a small hot hatch type car, well built as well.
I think the whole comparison to an AMG has skewed the context a little. The Golf R is a seriously quick little bit of kit compared to most cars on the road.
Of course the V8 AMG's are just insanely quick compared to most cars on the road.
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The Corsa forum won't be as bad as ours lol.And all i said was its a bit optimistic to say you're gonna love a golf after a e63, obviously hb took great offense from this comment and decided to talk the kind of bull id expect on a corsa forum.
On a related note these golf r's are everywhere. I must of seen 8 in a week. A golf r wud be the last choice if i was after a fast hatch, but thats me.
Ok let's let it slide, I'm sorry if I caused any offence. I have a soft spot for hot VWs. There are too many super people on our forum and we may hopefully meet at one of the GTGs I (I'll bring the E63 5.5TT so as not to cause offence)
But, my Golf is still faster than your C55 !
it's not all or even mostly about speed ..
comfort, presence, design, ride, handling, exhaust and engine noise, engine response, interior feel, fit and finish all matter too, much more than just speed (at least to me).
comfort, presence, design, ride, handling, exhaust and engine noise, engine response, interior feel, fit and finish all matter too, much more than just speed (at least to me).
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I can't say the Golf is faster than anything you have so I'll just stay quiet.
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Exactly why i'd take a Golf R over an A45. The A45 is too snug and dark feeling inside. Ride is jarring and unsettled on anything other than smooth roads. Design looks like a fast and furious edition corsa to me.
In contrast I like the understated looks of the golf. It just blends in, which appeals to me but may be a down side to others.
Get in the golf and put the dampers in comfort and it rides miles better than an A class. it's on par with a c-class for sure.
I'm no Chris Harris so can't tell the difference between the handling precision on the A45 and the Golf. The A45 has more feedback through the wheel and the Golf is more dampened but they both have insane levels of grip through corners that you will never manage in the bigger mercs.
When it comes to sound then both of the 4 pot hatches are a big let down compared with the V8 cars, even with "sports" exhausts. They sound cheap and lightweight but I guess it's a compromise you have to live with.
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Yeh, V12 is next on the hitlist !Shame it sounds crap.
but it's about all about speed
I confess I am a big fan of the Golf 7. Superb design and rides wonderfully. I imagine an R is a mighty bit of kit, even with the silly quad exhausts
V12
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You're right.
Most of these new high end cars are being leased.
Current deals from a quick google shows the following on a 2 year lease with 10k miles per year allowance, inc. VAT
Total cost :
Golf R - £9002
A45 - £13362.91
E63 - £20009.71
When the Golf R deals were really good the total cost over 2 years was just under £7000.
You'll start seeing even more of them as time passes as there are still many many people waiting for their ordered car to arrive. Lead time has been about 6 months for a long time due to high demand and stupidly competitive deals.
