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A solution to a problem that does not exist. There are no pollution issues on motorways.
I presume you are being ironic…given that there are multiple trials of lower speed limits on motorways precisely because local air pollution is too high?
 
I presume you are being ironic…given that there are multiple trials of lower speed limits on motorways precisely because local air pollution is too high?
Seek and yee shall find. Measuring "local air pollution" in reality means wherever they choose to place a NOx diffusion tube. No doubt at tailpipe level in areas prone to gridlock. Not local to humans at all.
 
I presume you are being ironic…given that there are multiple trials of lower speed limits on motorways precisely because local air pollution is too high?

The longest running one (M6, Birmingham) has just been scrapped. As has the one on the M1, I believe.
 
The longest running one (M6, Birmingham) has just been scrapped. As has the one on the M1, I believe.
Yes, I’d seen that a couple had been canned - but I thought that was because the reduced speed limits hadn’t made much impact rather than that there wasn’t a local air pollution problem. There is/has been one on the M5 at Oldbury…frankly any time I’ve driven that stretch, the speed limit could have been reduced to 20mph and traffic would still not have been able to reach it!
 
Yes, I’d seen that a couple had been canned - but I thought that was because the reduced speed limits hadn’t made much impact rather than that there wasn’t a local air pollution problem. There is/has been one on the M5 at Oldbury…frankly any time I’ve driven that stretch, the speed limit could have been reduced to 20mph and traffic would still not have been able to reach it!

Pretty sure I saw that the 60 limit on the M6 hadn't affected average traffic speeds there but pollution levels had dropped below the target threshold anyway.
 
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The longest running one (M6, Birmingham) has just been scrapped. As has the one on the M1, I believe.

It's alive and kicking on the M4 going west.

60mph speed limit on a 70mph motorway: "Speed limit for air quality".

Last seen a couple of weeks ago.
 
It's alive and kicking on the M4 going west.

60mph speed limit on a 70mph motorway: "Speed limit for air quality".

Last seen a couple of weeks ago.

AFAIK it's the M1 and M6 schemes that have been dropped, but I suspect others will follow. There's a fundamental flaw in that a large majority of the nitrogen dioxide emissions come from HGVs that are limited to below 60 anyway. A significant proportion of cars doing 70 rather than 60 will be petrol or EU6 diesel. There will be a few EVs too of course but they'll only be doing 55 in the middle lane regardless of the speed limit :D
 
AFAIK it's the M1 and M6 schemes that have been dropped, but I suspect others will follow. There's a fundamental flaw in that a large majority of the nitrogen dioxide emissions come from HGVs that are limited to below 60 anyway. A significant proportion of cars doing 70 rather than 60 will be petrol or EU6 diesel. There will be a few EVs too of course but they'll only be doing 55 in the middle lane regardless of the speed limit :D

To be fair, it's rare that you can actually do a steady 70mph on that stretch of the M4 anyway.
 
Surely that should only apply to ICE vehicles? 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yes - certain european countries have higher speed limits for EVs. The UK is still stuck in the stone ages, no surprise really reading some of the posters on here. 😂

Eg;
 
There is a simple if expensive answer to EV trucks using the motorway. I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't the 1st of April. Apparently there are currently several trials ongoing, one in Germany and one in the US and would you believe it there was going to be one on the M180 in Scunthorpe although I don't know if it actually took place.

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Beneath the road is an option too.
 
As for the reason EV's are being pushed that is to facilitate Chinas take over of the global automotive industry.
What’s in it for the many many pushers?

The Chinese manufacturers could take over the global car industry anyway - even if we stuck with ICE only - it would just take them a little longer in the West.

They can already build inexpensive ICE cars in large volumes, and they have the financial might to acquire “expensive” Western car manufacturers.
 
Population of Austria ? ....around 9 million souls , a tiny percentage of them car drivers .

Barely worth a mention in the whole scheme of 'Net Zero'......🤔
Oh dear, yet again you fail to see the point.

It’s nothing to do with net zero but about allowing cars which don’t impact local air quality due to increased speed, to travel faster than those which do…. 🤦‍♂️

EVs don’t release NoX…

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I would have been perfectly happy to do it - and have done many way longer journeys in the EV without range anxiety. But maybe it’s only me it works for…😉
Genuine question - I’m not ‘having a go’…

It was something like 240 miles, occasional rain going up, lots of heavy rain coming back, mostly after dark. Would that be viable in an EV, bearing in mind that as it was there and back in one day, with jobs to do at my M-i-L’s, there wouldn’t be time for any charging stops? Parked on the road, so couldn’t use her electricity to charge, either.
 
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Genuine question - I’m not ‘having a go’…

It was something like 240 miles, occasional rain going up, lots of heavy rain coming back, mostly after dark. Would that be viable in an EV, bearing in mind that as it was there and back in one day, with jobs to do at my M-i-L’s, there wouldn’t be time for any charging stops? Parked on the road, so couldn’t use her electricity to charge, either.
Depends on the EV, easy in something like a Model 3 Long Range or a Model S LR.
 
What’s in it for the many many pushers?

The Chinese manufacturers could take over the global car industry anyway - even if we stuck with ICE only - it would just take them a little longer in the West.

They can already build inexpensive ICE cars in large volumes, and they have the financial might to acquire “expensive” Western car manufacturers.
You tell me. What do the new age environmental warriors in their electric cars with £10,000+ made in China battery packs get out of it apart from the obvious tax breaks and cheap off peak EV charger electricity?

Maybe they are all good members of the Chinese communist party hell bent on destroying Western economies.:eek:
 
Or just maybe that want to help with climate change, stop filling others lungs with crap..... or maybe they just simply want cheap running costs.
 
Depends on the EV, easy in something like a Model 3 Long Range or a Model S LR.

Not according to What Car.

In their recent test the latest Model 3 LR managed 293 miles on a full charge, but that was by draining the battery to the point where the car was completely dead. And at mixed speeds, including 30 mph stop/start with regenerative braking. And a complete stop (for a driver change) every 15 miles. So 240 miles might just be possible, but it certainly wouldn't be 'easy'.

Full details of the group test were posted previously in this thread.
 

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