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Advice needed, Got 3 points and a £60 fine

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Chevrolet Matiz driver gets £60 fine and 3 points
copper insists its a Daewoo :D
 
Hmm

Matiz 995cc = 94 MPH & 0-60 in 12.5 secs

Matiz 796cc = 89 MPH

Cost from about £ 6,000

There are worse cars about

But presume you are referring to the badge name change surely this waste of police time must be taken to account, would have thought that the courts would have thrown this out. What offence is the guy comitting ??
 
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But presume you are referring to the badge name change surely this waste of police time must be taken to account, would have thought that the courts would have thrown this out. What offence is the guy comitting ??

Erm, I think it was a joke. It was wasn't it?
 
Looks like my calendar is stuck on April 1st as I fell for that one :o
 
so what offence was on the paperwork?
 
Hmm

Matiz 995cc = 94 MPH & 0-60 in 12.5 secs

Matiz 796cc = 89 MPH

Cost from about £ 6,000

There are worse cars about

But presume you are referring to the badge name change surely this waste of police time must be taken to account, would have thought that the courts would have thrown this out. What offence is the guy comitting ??

Strangely enough , a 200D in W115 or W123 flavour would have had similar performance ( OK acceleration not quite so sprightly as the Daewoo ) and would have cost about the same to buy back in the day :D
 
I don't mean to sound rude here, but are you sure your brother has told you the whole story objectively?

Maybe he also had a large spliff in his gob at the time which is what drew the copper's attention towards him:thumb:
 
I agree with flanaia 1. Some con and use offences are covered by the fixed penalty system.
If he wants to contest it have the car MOT, and if it passes then return the ticket to the central ticket office concerned asking for a court trial.

The chances are that it will not proceed, however if it does and the court find in favour of the police then your brother will more than likely receive a fine and endorsement higher than the ticket.

Were the officers who examined his car authorised under the Road traffic act 1972 to do this? You need to know. Contact the officer and ask or his supervisor.

The offence of failing to maintain suspension is open to interpretation and can be anything from a leaking strut to failing the bounce test, or more complex such as drop arm failure etc.

I'm very surprised he did not get a VDRS to have it rectified or has he had one of these before and ignored it

I think you have only got half a story but hope this helps you

Good luck
 
Does this thread remind anyone else of poor Mr Winston Kodogo? Surely he too could have been charged with having suspension that was too hard.
 
Ok the official slant...

No, people WONT be issued FPN's for stiff suspension or de-badging their cards. Its impossible to dom as there is NO offence code for this, so it simply can not be made up, its not a free text thing there HAS to be a specific offence and code for it. There IS more to the story, 100% than we are getting here. If a vehicle is stopped and the officer thinks its unroadworthy he will get a PG9 trained traffic officer to go over the vehicle. These officers will thoroughly check the car to see if it is roadworthy. Having an MOT does not make a car roadworthy...

So, its deemed un-roadworthy. A PG9 prohibition notice is served, and any apparent offences will be dealt with (tyres etc for instance). The vehicle hasd to stay where it is and get picked up, it can not be driven. It has to be repaired to VOSA standards and retested. A PG10 will then be issued when all relevant paperwork has been shown, only then can the vehicle go back on the road.

Onto Sec.59 notices (aften called asbo's for cars/bikes etc).

I beleive these are used mostly for the wrong reasons. They were brought in solely to stop anti social behaviour by chavs/scooter boys etc tearing around car parks etc being nobheads (but havent most of us done that when we were younger anyway?). It is dealt with at the roadside. There HAS to be a clear offence of the sec.3 rta OR Sec.34, and the vehicle driven in a manner which COULD cause alarm, annoyance etc to other members of public. It should be fully explained at the roadside and the driver whould be left with NO questions unanswered. It is NOT a prosecution, no disclosure is required nor ever given. If it is disputed, then the original offence of the sec.3 or sec.34 will be followed up on, which would result in a court appearance for sec.3, or points/fine for the sec.34. I'd rather have the Sec.59 thanks, its gone after a year too. However, I agree that it is a well over misused piece of legislation that officers need clearer guidelines for.

Any other help needed, fire away...
 
Noted that the OP has gone a little quiet on this one..............

Probably someone, somewhere had an over-active imagination and now regrets posting on a forum where some people actually know a lot about the subject in question. it looked plain wrong from the start - cannot happen as both Flanaia and Tyler (amongst others) have mentioned once or twice.

The really useful thing that came out of this thread is a good deal of clarity about FPN's and section 59 notices, for which the OP should be thanked!
 
Just as a slight counter to that, Legal advice would also be to not talk about the case.
 
Hmm

Matiz 995cc = 94 MPH & 0-60 in 12.5 secs

Matiz 796cc = 89 MPH

Cost from about £ 6,000

There are worse cars about

But presume you are referring to the badge name change surely this waste of police time must be taken to account, would have thought that the courts would have thrown this out. What offence is the guy comitting ??

Both are still the only car I refuse to drive (I don't differentiate between the 995 and 795 cc). I've kicked up a fuss more than once when that was the last car that Hertz had... they're coffins on wheels with a hampster powered autorickshaw engine... <rant over>

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I wholeheartedly agree. Absolute heaps of sh*te.

Now there really should be an offence code for driving a Daewoo/Chevrolet Matiz.
 
Both are still the only car I refuse to drive (I don't differentiate between the 995 and 795 cc). I've kicked up a fuss more than once when that was the last car that Hertz had... they're coffins on wheels with a hampster powered autorickshaw engine... <rant over>

M>


I got fooled into being "upgraded" into an Auto once.

A Nissan Note. The worst car I've ever had the misfortune of driving. Take the world's most gutless engine and hook it up to an appalling auto box; joy!
 
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Mercedes Cozy. Apologies for asking, but do you know and could you tell us please what was the actual offence on the FPN?

Many thanks.
 
You may be waiting some time, he hasn't been on here since 7th April, the day after "that" post.
 

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