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ryeltep said:
To be fair it isn't that easy to get them spot on. Having inflated up to the heavy car setting I have now reduced the pressure to the standard settings. Before and after I have noticed how sensitive tyres are to heat even the difference between the shady side and the sunny side of the car can give a difference of 10kpa. The recommended tyre pressures are for warm tyres too.


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The tyres on the left that have higher pressures are normally on the shady side. I guess that could make a difference.

Are you sure about the recommended pressures being for warm tyres? The manual says "tire pressure cold tires"...
 
dunos said:
My home charging solution involves a 25m extension cable and a dribox which I keep in the boot. I am waiting for the next Premier Inn experience where I drop the cable out the window!

You are right about the type of driving. Most of mine is a 26 mile each way commute. Add in the odd long trip plus the odd round town journey and this is what I am getting:
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Your solution sounds very similar to mine I have to masterplug weatherproof box and have managed to get the charger unit inside it. I sometimes use the 13A charge however in this warm weather I did it for an hour then almost burnt my hand on the live pin so am being more cautious until its cooler and usually sticking with 8A.

What app is that? I used Fuel Log Pro but there is no ongoing support for it now and it only works on Android 5.1 or older so I have to run it on my old tablet...it has all my fillups since 2009 that's why no keep it!

Ill let you know if my Monday Premier Inn experiencing involves cable out the window ill be taking my 25m cable reel and my wife with her rolling eyes.
 
Dodgy said:
The tyres on the left that have higher pressures are normally on the shady side. I guess that could make a difference.

Are you sure about the recommended pressures being for warm tyres? The manual says "tire pressure cold tires"...
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The pressures change so much when driving it would be impossible to set them correctly 'hot' because you would never know how hot they are.
Pressures should be set cold and as I have said elsewhere I was been told by an experienced tyre fitter that he has seen lots of C350e tyres that have worn on both outer edges (under inflated). This of course would be one risk of setting tyre pressures when hot - at lower temperatures the tyre pressures will be a lot lower (in my experience as much as 20kpa).
I run my tyres at the higher end of the suggested range. It reduces tyre squealing and I think slightly improves road holding.
 
wrighty senior said:
The pressures change so much when driving it would be impossible to set them correctly 'hot' because you would never know how hot they are.
Pressures should be set cold and as I have said elsewhere I was been told by an experienced tyre fitter that he has seen lots of C350e tyres that have worn on both outer edges (under inflated). This of course would be one risk of setting tyre pressures when hot - at lower temperatures the tyre pressures will be a lot lower (in my experience as much as 20kpa).
I run my tyres at the higher end of the suggested range. It reduces tyre squealing and I think slightly improves road holding.
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Agreed the manual says cold but I think the plate inside the fuel flap with the pressures refers to warm? I am going to look again in the morning. In practice I inflate/adjust my tyres at home cold anyway. I am keeping an eye on wear but at only 6k old they are still looking fine across the tread.


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Dodgy said:
I'm going to give this a chance, but "7-8 hours to charge at home"?? Is that plugged into a hamster wheel? :fail
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Is it bad form to reply to your own post?

Not a bad review, but seriously: no central cup holders in Switzerland? How do they cope?
:D
 
ryeltep said:
Agreed the manual says cold but I think the plate inside the fuel flap with the pressures refers to warm? I am going to look again in the morning. In practice I inflate/adjust my tyres at home cold anyway. I am keeping an eye on wear but at only 6k old they are still looking fine across the tread.


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Still good after 6000miles? You are obviously not trying hard enough :D
 
Good news

I've finally had feedback that the car is definitely due to arrive in 2 weeks time! :rock:

So with that I have a couple of questions from existing owners.

1. Whats the performance like when the battery is supposedly depleted? I'm aware it will always store 10% for starting or when you need to overtake etc, but if the car is in hybrid mode and you're driving hard, will it automatically try to charge to keep the levels up? What I'm wondering is how often would you find yourself with 'only' 211bhp?

2. Regarding charging at home. If I use a standard home socket to charge the car, can the car start charging at a predefined time (ie, overnight when its cheaper) or is the timer on the actual wall charge units themselves?

Thanks!
 
Welcome to the club. You'll love it.



hyp3rtoo said:
1. Whats the performance like when the battery is supposedly depleted? I'm aware it will always store 10% for starting or when you need to overtake etc, but if the car is in hybrid mode and you're driving hard, will it automatically try to charge to keep the levels up? What I'm wondering is how often would you find yourself with 'only' 211bhp?
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I think there are two answers. In theory, if you're flat out on an oval you'll drain the battery enough that boost will become unavailable and you'll be down to 211bhp. In practice, as soon as the battery level is low (10-20%), the car starts looking for chances to charge. The lower the battery level, the more likely it will charge. So if you're cruising, coasting or braking, the battery level will rise (or at least stabilise).



Extra note: if you have the destination set in the satnav, the car makes different decisions. Often it will charge more to allow urban driving at the end of the route to be completed on battery power. It's usually over-cautious about how much battery you need.



hyp3rtoo said:
2. Regarding charging at home. If I use a standard home socket to charge the car, can the car start charging at a predefined time (ie, overnight when its cheaper) or is the timer on the actual wall charge units themselves?
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Ask a dealer to activate Mercedes Me. You can use the mobile website to set the departure time and you can also enter the hours of your peak and off-peak electricity. It's dead easy. I started using an old timer switch, but I use the mobile site now.



Have fun!
 
Thanks for the feedback Dodgy - looking forward to it. It's been a long 9 months!
 
There are other bonuses to Mercedes Me. My wife has the car today. I can see she's arrived at her destination, guzzled her way to 42mpg on the trip and left the car unlocked. [emoji3]
 
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Inquired today with lease company if I could add the driving package but too late I am afraid... Good news is I do have a date now that build confirmed. Bad news - 6th Decemember. Still a long few months to go...

Anyone got pics of selenite grey with default 17" alloys?

Thanks
 
Inquired today with lease company if I could add the driving package but too late I am afraid... Good news is I do have a date now that build confirmed. Bad news - 6th Decemember. Still a long few months to go...

Anyone got pics of selenite grey with default 17" alloys?

Thanks
 
Dodgy said:
Ask a dealer to activate Mercedes Me. You can use the mobile website to set the departure time and you can also enter the hours of your peak and off-peak electricity. It's dead easy. I started using an old timer switch, but I use the mobile site now.
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I should have said I usually set the departure time to 6:30am so it charges before my e7 finishes. I've not tried setting it to when I actually leave, even though it knows that my e7 ends at 7am so it SHOULD have finished driving by then...
 
Dodgy said:
Welcome to the club. You'll love it.

I think there are two answers. In theory, if you're flat out on an oval you'll drain the battery enough that boost will become unavailable and you'll be down to 211bhp. In practice, as soon as the battery level is low (10-20%), the car starts looking for chances to charge. The lower the battery level, the more likely it will charge. So if you're cruising, coasting or braking, the battery level will rise (or at least stabilise).



Extra note: if you have the destination set in the satnav, the car makes different decisions. Often it will charge more to allow urban driving at the end of the route to be completed on battery power. It's usually over-cautious about how much battery you need.



Have fun!
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I have never had mine that low that there is no electric on offer. To give an idea of how it charges on a reasonable trip (say 100 miles) it will deplete the battery but if you look at the stats it is possible that over 25 miles have been covered in electric mode. Mine shows about 14 miles on 100% charge so the battery has re charged during the trip ti give another 9 miles.

Also....Does the povo sat nave do this as well as the command?
 
Bewva said:
I have never had mine that low that there is no electric on offer. To give an idea of how it charges on a reasonable trip (say 100 miles) it will deplete the battery but if you look at the stats it is possible that over 25 miles have been covered in electric mode. Mine shows about 14 miles on 100% charge so the battery has re charged during the trip ti give another 9 miles.

Also....Does the povo sat nave do this as well as the command?
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I think the 25 miles covered in electric mode is a bit of a spin from MB. It includes time spent coasting and decelerating. Wouldn't you get most of that benefit in any car with a modern engine? My guess is that you get roughly 10-15 miles of electric range including regeneration. What do others think?

I don't have COMAND and my car seems to behave differently when a destination is set. For example, roughly 20 miles from home it starts to charge until the battery is over 20% Full. As someone said earlier in the thread, knowing how much charge you need to get home on your normal routes home means you can switch to EV and use the charge instead of fuel for the last few miles.
 
My issue with the car not charging was down to the charger provided with the car.

A new one has been ordered by the dealer.
 
Dodgy said:
I think the 25 miles covered in electric mode is a bit of a spin from MB. It includes time spent coasting and decelerating. Wouldn't you get most of that benefit in any car with a modern engine? My guess is that you get roughly 10-15 miles of electric range including regeneration. What do others think?

I don't have COMAND and my car seems to behave differently when a destination is set. For example, roughly 20 miles from home it starts to charge until the battery is over 20% Full. As someone said earlier in the thread, knowing how much charge you need to get home on your normal routes home means you can switch to EV and use the charge instead of fuel for the last few miles.
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I would agree, the "bonus miles" readout is an engine off meter, i.e. coasting is included.

As said above, I think the software tries to increase charging at low battery levels, even not in E mode, when it gets low.

I've found that in C, the car will charge on a motorway up to low 20-23%.
In E with Sat nav I've got up to 80% before!
In E without sat nav it seems a bit sporadic, sometimes it will stop around 29%, other times it will carry on.

My general tactic is if I have a return leg, or a long city section at the end, I'll let it do its thing. If I have no urban at the end I'll drop into C again to avoid excessive charging. I do miss the auto brake (no driver aid plus pack on mine) in E. Its so easy in 50-70 dual carriageway traffic.
 
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