C350e owners club

[Hicksy]

That was top of my checklist when I received mine on Friday. Premium Estate and mine did not have gaps as per the pictures, the aluminium is flush fitting so far as I can tell.

Just done my first bit of car cleaning and, in daylight, I can now see I DO have the same gap in the rear door sill area that others have commented on. On mine it's black trim on black paintwork with a black gap so near impossible to see other than in direct sunlight. Its also a slightly flimsy bit of trim so suggest you don't go poking around in there.

Apologies if my earlier comment might have led anyone to feel unnecessarily concerned, it does look to be a "feature".

 

[Jetrin]

Link here : -

http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/general-discussion/189799-c350e-anyone-considering-one-65.html

You can order the AMG front end on the C350e from the factory in Germany, plus interior and from the grape vine, the C350e will come out in AMG trim from mid to late 2016 as a marketing decision. Also some further work needs to be carried out to reduce the CO2 standards with the additional weight and wheel size.

Where can I get the rear bumper for the Plug-In version. I own a sport version and I wish to install this bumper on my c350e soon. If anyone knows please, lease let me know. Thanks, J.

Couldnt find where to order it.

 

[C350esmithy]

Where can I get the rear bumper for the Plug-In version. I own a sport version and I wish to install this bumper on my c350e soon. If anyone knows please, lease let me know. Thanks, J.

Couldnt find where to order it.

Amg trim to come out in mid 2016. Now I am totally ****** off

 

[Driver15]

Amg trim to come out in mid 2016. Now I am totally ****** off

i mentioned middle of 2015 that the FULL amg kit was out mid 2016.

The AMG pack, ie front bumper, side skirts, interior and wheels have all been optional in Germany since launch.

Of course CO2 is increased with the bigger wheels, but its just how Merc market the product.

 

[Jetrin]

i mentioned middle of 2015 that the FULL amg kit was out mid 2016.

The AMG pack, ie front bumper, side skirts, interior and wheels have all been optional in Germany since launch.

Of course CO2 is increased with the bigger wheels, but its just how Merc market the product.

Thank you! Just needed someone to confirmed its coming! Haha.


Thanks!

 

[Driver15]

Thank you! Just needed someone to confirmed its coming! Haha.


Thanks!

It should be in the GERMAN MY17 W/S 205 Product guide due out around April time if its going coming out anywhere.

Once thats released, and then the UK one you will have your answer.

 

[Lr16merc]

Exceeding Expectations

Well,

1 week in and all good. This is a car that you need to dive with your senses to really get the mpg out of it. As with any Hybrid it's all about being smooth and anticipating the road and conditions ahead. Early gentle braking, gradual acceleration, as if you've got all the time in the world and lots of coasting. Lift off when you feel the accelerator tap your foot and just "will" the car along until you come across a hill. Even at this point, no heavy right foot but push and watch the white power indicators light. The challenge is only to light as few as possible, it's like having Christmas tree lights but unscrewing as many bulbs as you think you can get away with until the children notice

So, I've driven like that all week on the daily commute (I cover 120miles a day to and from the office) but now it's Friday, change the mode from Eco to Sport+ and have some fun !!!! After all I feel as though I deserve it as the average Mpg by then is sitting at 58.5. not bad for a heavy estate car. Over the weekend most driving is all on electric charge so no fuel used at all until Monday morning.

I love the car and enjoy driving it in all modes. Eco is the challenge for the week and Sport+ is the reward

 

[noobmonkey]

Well,

1 week in and all good. This is a car that you need to dive with your senses to really get the mpg out of it. As with any Hybrid it's all about being smooth and anticipating the road and conditions ahead. Early gentle braking, gradual acceleration, as if you've got all the time in the world and lots of coasting. Lift off when you feel the accelerator tap your foot and just "will" the car along until you come across a hill. Even at this point, no heavy right foot but push and watch the white power indicators light. The challenge is only to light as few as possible, it's like having Christmas tree lights but unscrewing as many bulbs as you think you can get away with until the children notice

So, I've driven like that all week on the daily commute (I cover 120miles a day to and from the office) but now it's Friday, change the mode from Eco to Sport+ and have some fun !!!! After all I feel as though I deserve it as the average Mpg by then is sitting at 58.5. not bad for a heavy estate car. Over the weekend most driving is all on electric charge so no fuel used at all until Monday morning.

I love the car and enjoy driving it in all modes. Eco is the challenge for the week and Sport+ is the reward

Wow.... I'm at 34.8mpg Nd I use battery to work and back where I can. I have to drive like a saint to get 50+! Good on you though. V impressive

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[C350e-at-CH43]

Hi all, newby here.

Ordered last June and received my Hyacinth red C350e 10th Feb. I've done nearly 3500 miles so far and I'm turning as schizophrenic as the car! It is a well appointed, comfortable sports saloon that is capable of being a bit of a hooligan when the sport + devil rears its head. However the long journeys that I regularly undertake see very poor fuel economy even when driven sensibly. On motorways I typically drive at 60 with the cruise control on, in E-hybrid and I'm averaging 41 mpg. I am just making a small gain on company mileage at 12p/mile but any ventures into sport + will see me enjoying myself but subsidising my employer's fuel bill! For a so called Eco car this is less than impressive. I have largely given up charging at home for long journeys as I've noticed on my regular trips to the M58 through Liverpool that £1 worth of electricity gets me circa 8 miles, against no charge getting me 4 miles with the engine off on the same sort of journey. I'm not paying 25p/mile for electricity when petrol costs less!

Today I've had an issue with the car telling me that there was insufficient fuel to start the engine and only electric mode was available. I only had 22% charge so it was telling me to fill up asap. I had two bars left on the fuel gauge and I know that I have driven circa 10 miles with the last bar flashing previously so there was definitely sufficient fuel in the tank. The car died 200 yards from the petrol station. Switching the ignition off and back on again saw the engine miraculously kick into life and I filled up with....44.5 litres...ie not anywhere near 50!!! Very annoying:fail

I'm just thinking of the £5k BIK saving over the next 4 years as currently I'm less than impressed due having to drive like Morgan Freeman in driving Miss Daisy just to break even on business trips.

Sorry for the rant!!

Mark

 

[HHamster]

Hi all, newby here.

Ordered last June and received my Hyacinth red C350e 10th Feb. I've done nearly 3500 miles so far and I'm turning as schizophrenic as the car! It is a well appointed, comfortable sports saloon that is capable of being a bit of a hooligan when the sport + devil rears its head. However the long journeys that I regularly undertake see very poor fuel economy even when driven sensibly. On motorways I typically drive at 60 with the cruise control on, in E-hybrid and I'm averaging 41 mpg. I am just making a small gain on company mileage at 12p/mile but any ventures into sport + will see me enjoying myself but subsidising my employer's fuel bill! For a so called Eco car this is less than impressive. I have largely given up charging at home for long journeys as I've noticed on my regular trips to the M58 through Liverpool that £1 worth of electricity gets me circa 8 miles, against no charge getting me 4 miles with the engine off on the same sort of journey. I'm not paying 25p/mile for electricity when petrol costs less!

Today I've had an issue with the car telling me that there was insufficient fuel to start the engine and only electric mode was available. I only had 22% charge so it was telling me to fill up asap. I had two bars left on the fuel gauge and I know that I have driven circa 10 miles with the last bar flashing previously so there was definitely sufficient fuel in the tank. The car died 200 yards from the petrol station. Switching the ignition off and back on again saw the engine miraculously kick into life and I filled up with....44.5 litres...ie not anywhere near 50!!! Very annoying:fail

I'm just thinking of the £5k BIK saving over the next 4 years as currently I'm less than impressed due having to drive like Morgan Freeman in driving Miss Daisy just to break even on business trips.

Sorry for the rant!!

Mark

Welcome Mark, lovely looking car you have there!

I think you've summed up the car nicely and I agree with your points. In my opinion, the ONLY reason for buying this car is as a company car to enjoy the BIK savings. Real world fuel economy is not great, some might even say "poor". I just completed a 229 mile trip from Devon to London, on reasonably empty motorways so I set the cruise to 75 for most of the way and otherwise driving with a light foot and I got a shade under 35mpg. This was admittedly with only 20% battery charge at the start but had the car in Eco Hybrid mode all the way. I'm sure A C250 cdi or even a C350 cdi on the same journey driven the same way would've achieved 40% better fuel economy.

When my lease comes to an end in 3 years time, the BIK tax will have more than doubled to 16% (or even higher if you have the 18" wheels) so that further erodes the argument for this car.

 

[Driver15]

When my lease comes to an end in 3 years time, the BIK tax will have more than doubled to 16% (or even higher if you have the 18" wheels) so that further erodes the argument for this car.

This.. In 3 years time the BIK rates on a car like this with a high RRP and high BIK rating, plus low MPG will see a vast reduction in sales.

This is also the kind of car you want to lease.. not own as selling it in 3 years time out of warranty with a track record of low MPG, low range aint going to appeal to many.

While i wish all you the best of luck, im glad im got out when i did of my order now.

 

[ryeltep]

Hi all, newby here.

Ordered last June and received my Hyacinth red C350e 10th Feb. I've done nearly 3500 miles so far and I'm turning as schizophrenic as the car! It is a well appointed, comfortable sports saloon that is capable of being a bit of a hooligan when the sport + devil rears its head. However the long journeys that I regularly undertake see very poor fuel economy even when driven sensibly. On motorways I typically drive at 60 with the cruise control on, in E-hybrid and I'm averaging 41 mpg. I am just making a small gain on company mileage at 12p/mile but any ventures into sport + will see me enjoying myself but subsidising my employer's fuel bill! For a so called Eco car this is less than impressive. I have largely given up charging at home for long journeys as I've noticed on my regular trips to the M58 through Liverpool that £1 worth of electricity gets me circa 8 miles, against no charge getting me 4 miles with the engine off on the same sort of journey. I'm not paying 25p/mile for electricity when petrol costs less!

Today I've had an issue with the car telling me that there was insufficient fuel to start the engine and only electric mode was available. I only had 22% charge so it was telling me to fill up asap. I had two bars left on the fuel gauge and I know that I have driven circa 10 miles with the last bar flashing previously so there was definitely sufficient fuel in the tank. The car died 200 yards from the petrol station. Switching the ignition off and back on again saw the engine miraculously kick into life and I filled up with....44.5 litres...ie not anywhere near 50!!! Very annoying:fail

I'm just thinking of the £5k BIK saving over the next 4 years as currently I'm less than impressed due having to drive like Morgan Freeman in driving Miss Daisy just to break even on business trips.

Sorry for the rant!!

Mark

Mark sounds a familiar timescale. Mine is arriving two weeks today.

I too am schizophrenic on the car. The bit of me that wants to reduce my environmental impact is hoping that the 8 mile commute in a city (each way) with charging at both ends will mean almost zero fuel use during the week. My other regular journey is about 26 miles round trip so that too should be 50% fuel free.

I have to confess that the BIK was a big factor too. I am moving from an X3 3.0d which was becoming more expensive by the year and never yielded more than about 35mpg. So the numbers game (and I am an accountant!) looks very favourable over a 3 year lease.

Quite a lot of folk on here seem to be high mileage drivers and this car is no more appropriate for that than someone with a diesel and DPF only doing short trips.

I know that when I drive this car on holiday or longer trips to clients that I am effectively driving a heavier car with a 2.0 turbo in it. On those days I will probably get the same mpg as the X3 and can live with that.

Let's enjoy the car (gadgets and reliability willing) and see what happens next. We are at the leading edge of a new era - hybrids like this are the stepping stone to something better I am sure.

 

[Bewva]

As with above my commute is 6 miles. I've not had mine a week yet and I read on here all the info on crap range. I can confirm yesterday I charged mine fully and it told me I had 13 miles. Disappointed.com. However that said I can charge at work and do my commute home and back in between charges.
I have a free fuel card through work so MPG is not a major concern to me at the moment as my BIK on the fuel card is less than the cost of the fuel I put in. I think this may change by year 3 as the BIK increases.
Previous car was a BMW 320 and I only got 40MPG out of that and it was the efficiency model. That was costing me about £230 per month in tax.
From a performance point of view this car out performs anything that was on my lease choice for less than half the BIK and the level of comfort and accessories leave my BMW in the dark ages.
In summary I'm well chuffed.

 

[UKMercDriver]

Anyone know why Mercedes have decided to quote tyre pressures in kPi ???

Probably the same dumb reason they decided to remove the temperature display and then put it back where you cannot read it at night!!

 

[UKMercDriver]

For info, now on 6000 miles and have an average of 43.2 MPG.

Despite all my whingeing, I still love it!!

 

[mbboyracer]

Mine's now on PDI so I'll soon join the "haves". In the meantime, a comment on an earlier post. To average 66mph will require some speed excursions way above 70-75mph. If you can drive like that for 3½hrs and still achieve nearly 35mpg, you really are doing very well. What's to complain about? Remember that once in the cruise, most energy consumed is used for acceleration - linear (straight and upwards) and angular (turning corners!) and to counteract the aerodynamic drag and the rolling resistance. Also, Drag is proportional to the square of the speed; the Drag at 60mph will be four times the Drag at 30mph. Your figures look good to me. I'll soon be able to check for myself.

 

[HHamster]

Mine's now on PDI so I'll soon join the "haves". In the meantime, a comment on an earlier post. To average 66mph will require some speed excursions way above 70-75mph. If you can drive like that for 3½hrs and still achieve nearly 35mpg, you really are doing very well. What's to complain about? Remember that once in the cruise, most energy consumed is used for acceleration - linear (straight and upwards) and angular (turning corners!) and to counteract the aerodynamic drag and the rolling resistance. Also, Drag is proportional to the square of the speed; the Drag at 60mph will be four times the Drag at 30mph. Your figures look good to me. I'll soon be able to check for myself.

The motorways were really quiet when I did that trip so I genuinely was able to set the cruise to 75 for pretty much the whole way. I may have had the occasional blip up to 80 leptons ish but I really was using it as an experiment to drive normally, i.e. not being a compete eco freak and driving at 56mph, and certainly not being a boy racer either.

My point is that, driven in the same way, a C250 diesel would be significantly more fuel efficient. I hope this doesn't put a downer on prospective owners, it's still a lovely car I'm just surprised that cutting edge PHEV with a claimed 134.5mpg has such a disparity in real world economy.

I still stand by my comment that the only reason to buy this car is for the BIK savings, if you're after MPG get a diesel.

 

[Driver15]

The motorways were really quiet when I did that trip so I genuinely was able to set the cruise to 75 for pretty much the whole way. I may have had the occasional blip up to 80 leptons ish but I really was using it as an experiment to drive normally, i.e. not being a compete eco freak and driving at 56mph, and certainly not being a boy racer either.

My point is that, driven in the same way, a C250 diesel would be significantly more fuel efficient. I hope this doesn't put a downer on prospective owners, it's still a lovely car I'm just surprised that cutting edge PHEV with a claimed 134.5mpg has such a disparity in real world economy.

I still stand by my comment that the only reason to buy this car is for the BIK savings, if you're after MPG get a diesel.

The MPG was my concern, more so for family trips when car fully loaded and having to use a roof box as the boot of the saloon is so small taking into account the first reports of low MPG with just the driver onboard..

I had this vision of 25mpg on our long mileage runs with the roof box.. plus the fact of a small fuel tank i would not be able to do the 600 plus miles in one go without stopping a few times for fuel.

Also.. when diesel was £0.20p a litre more expensive, the gap was even bigger then

 

[mbboyracer]

I still stand by my comment that the only reason to buy this car is for the BIK savings, if you're after MPG get a diesel.

Okay, in the end it's what suits individual needs and tastes.

I'm changing from my 2008 C-class diesel C320cdi; 3-litres and goes like a rocket with all that torque. But although I can see 40-44 mpg on the computer display in the cruise, my overall average consumption for each 5000 mile block has been consistent at 33.5mpg over the last eight years.

Can't speak for BiK being an idle sod with no visible means of support. (aka a pensioner!)

 

[Dieseldrinker]

When you read through the official tests to get the published mpg it's easy to see how the fantasy figures are achieved. I suspect if we were able to drive the total distance required to satisfy the tests in the real world at the speeds required by the tests with no auxiliary circuits running it might be possible to achieve close to the brochure claims.

As it is, life is not like that so we must be satisfied with driving what is still an awesome car with poorer than published fuel economy. Thankfully I took my car for the BIK savings and have a fuel card so I'm a happy bunny.

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