Formula One 2018 - General Thread

[Mactech]

The problem with tech regs or sporting regs is that the engineers or teams will focus on the way to the best end result.
If we are wanting someone to look for spectacle and exciting racing for the benefit of the spectators then we must look to F1's new owners.
Hopefully that will become apparent in the next couple of years.

 

[Nat]

No point in pushing the '2 move' rule as it only affected one team who retried both cars and drivers in a split second. No one else involved.

I disagree. If another driver got took out from there debris or was somehow caught by the RB actions then they've in essence killed there race. Rules are rules and the FIA don't show any consistency.

As for MV I'm really surprised he's still with RB. Kyvat was booted out for been involved or the cause of too many accidents,

 

[GeeJayW]

I disagree. If another driver got took out from there debris or was somehow caught by the RB actions then they've in essence killed there race. Rules are rules and the FIA don't show any consistency.

As for MV I'm really surprised he's still with RB. Kyvat was booted out for been involved or the cause of too many accidents,

I agree that the FIA are inconsistent.

The difference between MV and Kvyatt is tha Max is actually talented albeit at times over aggressive. Kvyatt was just well funded and clumsy.

 

[Mactech]

The difference between MV and Kvyatt is tha Max is actually talented albeit at times over aggressive. Kvyatt was just well funded and clumsy.

Harsh....but true!

 

[zipdip]

Well the last two races have been exciting for very different reasons,there is no doubt the new owners of F1 are pushing to make more interesting races,I maybe in a minority but given the number of races this year I still get the feeling that Mercedes are playing the long game and I think we will see a change of fortunes very soon.

 

[bob6600]

Well the problem for DR is that MV is as fast overall if not actually quite a bit faster at times.

The problem for RB is that DR has been rather better at getting race results whereas MV has been capable of throwing points away.

What do you do? RB can't afford to lose MV - the potential is just too great and also losing him to another team is like giving away a strategic weapon.

What would you do ? In fact if you were Mercedes or Ferrari and after this both MV and DR were threatening to leave RB would you go after either of them if they were available?

My gut feel is that if I was a team owner thinking strategically is that I'd want MV - but you're really figuring that he has at least another year or two to line up his talents and maturity - at which point with the right car you're looking at a multiple WDC career. OTOH - thinking about next year - I'd want DR.

I think DR is the driver that RB need now and next year. MV is the driver they don't want anybody else to have and want for the years after.

Pity that DR's alternatives are so limited - he'd be better somewhere else.

This is why RB extended Max's contract as soon as they could as he was drawing interest from the big boys.

I think DR has options at Ferrari and Mercedes although the former will probably mean playing a 'Kimi' role to Seb. Looking at this season so far, Kimi seems to be driving well and may well get another extension in which case it only leaves Mercedes for DR which will depend on how well Bottas does.

 

[Stratman]

I can't see DR going to Ferrari to be Vettel's fluffer.

 

[brucemillar]

I can't see DR going to Ferrari to be Vettel's fluffer.

That’s not a mental image I would have personally chosen.


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[st13phil]

However. MV has previous on the issue of moving in the braking zone and got off too lightly for this in the past.

There is a rich irony in the fact that MV's multiple changes of course under braking to fend off an overtake, which other drivers have complained about and some have said will cause an almighty shunt sooner or later, that has consistently been defended by Horner, actually did cause an almighty shunt with his own team mate

As I alluded to in an earlier post, MV is unlikely to accept responsibility for punting other cars off the track or causing other shunts until another driver punches him in the face. Maybe after this incident it will be Marko or Horner delivering the punch?

 

[whitenemesis]

New rules agreed for 2019, to make overtaking 'easier'

The changes are:

• a simplified front wing, with a larger span, and less "out-wash potential" - ie, more air will be directed inside the front wheels rather than outside them
• simplified brake ducts with no winglets
• wider and deeper rear wing

New rules to be introduced 'to make overtaking easier'

 

[Stratman]

I bet Adrian Newey has already figured out how to redirect the air back out around the side of the car...

 

[Mactech]

Well I'm glad that Ross Brawn and Liberty Media are listening, and more importantly, pushing things forward
It bodes well for the 2021 regulations and the future direction of F1.

 

[Deletedmember130310]

I was reading an interview with David Coulthard recently and his view is the FIA /Liberty should write new rule for, say, 2020 and publish them with a statement to all teams - “those are the rules. Take them or leave them.”

Would be interesting to see if anyone walked away....

 

[Mactech]

As I alluded to in an earlier post, MV is unlikely to accept responsibility for punting other cars off the track or causing other shunts until another driver punches him in the face. Maybe after this incident it will be Marko or Horner delivering the punch?

I think Christian Horner has done a great job in directing Dead Bull to success. He does, however, remain the only driver ever to have broken down in tears with me as a racing driver when we could not make his F3 car go any quicker.....
I think this shows his passion (and frustration?) for the sport, and he is a much better team boss than driver.
Does that make him more or less likely to lump Verstappen one?

 

[st13phil]

I think this shows his passion (and frustration?) for the sport, and he is a much better team boss than driver.

Horner's passion for the sport and drive to get Red Bull to the top shine through. I definitely think F1 would be worse off without him/them.

Does that make him more or less likely to lump Verstappen one?

I'm not sure either, but someone really does need to give him a hard slap rather than just indulge him. He certainly looks to have champion potential, but that won't be realised unless he learns to manage his aggression and to take responsibility for his mistakes rather than project them onto others. Self belief is a vital component of success as an F1 driver, but it can be overdone with potentially tragic consequences. Back in the Hunt era he would have been on his ar$e with a bloody nose by now

 

[Mactech]

Back in the Hunt era he would have been on his ar$e with a bloody nose by now

Back in the day drivers had much more respect because you would be dead if you drove like that!
No way am I advocating that cars are 'too safe', but you are quite right, in a different age drivers have still to earn respect not demand it.

 

[Mactech]

Brundle earned the respect of Senna by not giving in to bullies....but it was still a little dangerous!

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[Deleted member 131833]

Just realised I have booked a cruise through the med, after barcelona GP and before Monaco GP

Oops!

 

[190]

Back in the Hunt era he would have been on his ar$e with a bloody nose by now

Indeed he would. Hunt was just the man for the job.

 

[whitenemesis]

Indeed he would. Hunt was just the man for the job.

After he'd finished his glass of champagne and thrown up...
Top man, last of the real 'gentlemen, playboy' racers.