New Shell VPower Nitro + Launched

[almoamg]

Hey bud

What do mean?
Do you not think much of this nitro stuff?

I think he means you will get more deposits in your engine as the supermarket fuel is lower quality. It would have to be an emergency for me to put any supermarket fuel (excluding Tesco 99) in my car as it is just crap. You get less mpg on the lower RON rating. If I put 97 or 95 in my RS4 previously it was rough as bits.

I have to agree with others. Why own a performance car and put inferior fuel in it. Shell v-power all the way.

 

[MarriedBlonde]

Wait for a few thousand miles till the dirt builds up in your fuel tank and engine then I'm sure you will notice it

Hmmm not so sure.

BM z4 coupe - 40K miles mainly on sainsburys super. No problems, went like stink.

330msport 45K miles mainly on sainsburys super. ran brilliants, no problems went like stink

VW Scirocco 25K miles, remapped, decat pipe etc mainly on sainsburys fuel, no problems, went like stink and produced stupid amounts of power at the RR days compared to others and was nice and quick down the 1/4

e350 Cdi convertable - ran mainly on sainsburys disel, no problems, chipped, went like stink

ml320 sport - 65K miles ran mainly on sainsburys diesel, no problems, pulls like a train. (it might even have had a tank of v-power petrol in it at one point but thats another story)

Above when I say mainly I mena 90-95% of the fuel is from sainsburys. So I am failing to see when these problems are going to arise?

Don't believe the hype... I am sure there is a marginal performance gain from the shell v-power, and if I am passing a shell I will put the stuff in my amg, but as for the others knackering my engine I doubt it. But if I post up on here that my cars gone bang because of cruddy fule I will happily let you tell me "I told you so"

These cars are not just sold in the uk, germany etc they are sold in countries with cruddy grade fuel.

 

[RBYCC]

Morning...

Please excuse my ignorance on the matter but I have a couple of questions regarding this new fuel.

I drive a 1991 300CE (M103).

1. can my car adapt to higher octane fuel such as this 99 RON Nitro +?
2. Will the addatives that clean the fuel system help me or cause problems with corrosion of seals etc?
3. Will the detergents used remove deposits and cuse problems or will it help performance.

I have always shyed away from using flushing/cleaning agents in the past with old engines as I have been warned can do more damage than good.

I have only had my W124 for about 1 month, and only used standard 95 RON.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated!...

M103 EZL can't automatically adapt to any change in octane ratings.
Euro EZL's have a manually adjustable feature to adapt primarily to lower octane.

You want to use a premium petrol as they tend to contain detergents and fuel system cleaners like Polybutene Amine (PBA) and Polyether Amine (PEA)

Nothing in any premium petrol to harm an older engine.
Even 5% ethanol will not impact that much on fuel economy or inherent water separation.

In the USA my state mandates 10% ethanol..I run Shell V-Power E10 in all my cars from stock 280SL-M130 to CLK63 Black Series.
USA uses a different octane rating with highest at 93.

Ethanol can be problematic even in low concentrations.
It will give more power but it can separate into a water component if the car sits for some time.
If you store a car with any amount of ethanol best to use a fuel stabilser in the tank.
Some states in the USA offer E85 which is 85% ethanol...

Ed A.

 

[adzy]

i just put this new shell vpower nitro fuel in before i had my car dyno'd and it went from 450 to 550 bhp WOW magic...!!

LOL

 

[BenzedUP]

Hey bud

What do mean?
Do you not think much of this nitro stuff?

Hey man, hope you're well.

I do rate the vpower allot, I use it in both AMG's all the time!

I don't rate any supermarket fuels!

 

[MarriedBlonde]

i just put this new shell vpower nitro fuel in before i had my car dyno'd and it went from 450 to 550 bhp WOW magic...!!

LOL

I hear it makes your **** grow 2" as well

 

[Billy-cls55]

Hmmm not so sure.

BM z4 coupe - 40K miles mainly on sainsburys super. No problems, went like stink.

330msport 45K miles mainly on sainsburys super. ran brilliants, no problems went like stink

VW Scirocco 25K miles, remapped, decat pipe etc mainly on sainsburys fuel, no problems, went like stink and produced stupid amounts of power at the RR days compared to others and was nice and quick down the 1/4

e350 Cdi convertable - ran mainly on sainsburys disel, no problems, chipped, went like stink

ml320 sport - 65K miles ran mainly on sainsburys diesel, no problems, pulls like a train. (it might even have had a tank of v-power petrol in it at one point but thats another story)

Above when I say mainly I mena 90-95% of the fuel is from sainsburys. So I am failing to see when these problems are going to arise?

Don't believe the hype... I am sure there is a marginal performance gain from the shell v-power, and if I am passing a shell I will put the stuff in my amg, but as for the others knackering my engine I doubt it. But if I post up on here that my cars gone bang because of cruddy fule I will happily let you tell me "I told you so"

These cars are not just sold in the uk, germany etc they are sold in countries with cruddy grade fuel.

I think you are missing the point somewhat, you cannot compare cheap supermarket fuel with vpower nitro, if you actually look into the development behind the new fuel you would see why, because you have run cars on supermarket fuel for years is fine for you, if you want to compare stick your car on a dyno with another c63 that has always run vpower Acid is running a dyno day, and lets see the results, but it's not just about more power, its carbon reduction, heat and friction reduction to name a few, it's your choice to use supermarket fuel on a performance car, like wise it's our choice to choose vpower, no one it telling you to stop and go and buy vpower, the OP was about a new fuel being launched nothing more, it's not about the supermarket diehards vs the vpower users, that debate has been ongoing for years.

 

[GSEH88]

I've always only used V-Power and have now used a few tankfuls of Nitro+ and can feel no difference whatsoever. It may have long term benefits but nothing short term.

 

[Riverside Red]

Filled up with Shell V Power Nitro and went for a run in the North York Moors, unbelievable but the sun came out ;-)

RR

 

[Alps]

i normally use Tesco momentum 99 and shell vpower - and actually find performance wise noticably similar on both, if theres no tesco around, i head to a shell and vice versa, back up plan would be BP, but thats about it.

no science on this one for me either, car runs smoother and more responsive, thats all!

 

[Cyclone1]

It might have been mentioned before but most Supermarkets restock their fuel supplies from the same distribution station as the mainstream Petrol companies. Products such as Shells VPower range are exclusive to Shell, but outside of that many fuel products are shared between BP, Esso, Total etc and the supermarkets.

For reference I do use Shell as I have their points card and have been racking up around 40-45k miles per year. However, on past experience it's Tesco 99 that gives most power, albeit this was tested on a TVR and also on an Audi of mine. But you can't doubt what Shell are doing with the additives in their fuel to allow increased protection of internal engine components.......how much difference it makes in the long term or life of the engines is hard to tell, but there will be some gains in longer term efficiency and maybe life cycle.

Jules.

 

[b1g1an]

It might have been mentioned before but most Supermarkets restock their fuel supplies from the same distribution station as the mainstream Petrol companies. Products such as Shells VPower range are exclusive to Shell, but outside of that many fuel products are shared between BP, Esso, Total etc and the supermarkets.

If that's the case, not saying you're wrong though, it's odd that it was the supermarket fuels that had the silicon 'problem' in 2007 rather than any of the 'brands'.

 

[Cyclone1]

If that's the case, not saying you're wrong though, it's odd that it was the supermarket fuels that had the silicon 'problem' in 2007 rather than any of the 'brands'.

From memory that was a one off that was restricted to one Fuel Supply Station that was found to be from a number of fixed tanks that held the fuel. In this case this station / depot did supply predominantely to supermarkets, but if you take some of the larger distribution stations / depots then you will see BP, Esso, Total, Asda or whoever the current distributor tanker firm is queuing up to refill. There are even occassions where a Branded petrol companies tanker will be used to supply direct to the supermarket....


Jules.

 

[RBYCC]

The only problem, if it is a problem, with purchase of "supermarket" or non-branded fuel is that you are not sure of what refiner supplied it.
It will change at times on a daily basis, dependent on what the wholesale distributor has purchased for resale.
All fuel and lubricants, even unbranded or store branded come from a major refiner.

 

[Osgee]

I think this is a case of those who dont use it, are trying to justify and reassure themselves thats its a all a gimmick and that 3-4PL they save is because they know its all false claims and not because there being a tight a**

Working with Engine builders running cars in excess of 600bhp I can only tell you my experience with these fuels,

What I found:

Shell V-power is more stable and produces more power than standard fuels.

Tesco 99 runs a fraction leaner than V-power on tests with the same map, nothing to worry about as a "good" mapped road car should not be on the edge of det,

On stripping engines, the engines that have been run on shell v-power are visibley cleaner and have less deposits than engines run on average fuels,

You paid 1000's for your pride and joy so whats a couple of pennys more at a station?

As for the differnce between shell v-power and the new Nitro+ ...... time will tell

But by all means carry on using normal fuels you're keeping Terra-Clean in business

 

[John Jones Jr]

What I found:

Shell V-power is more stable and produces more power than standard fuels.

Tesco 99 runs a fraction leaner than V-power on tests with the same map, nothing to worry about as a "good" mapped road car should not be on the edge of det,

On stripping engines, the engines run on shell v-power are visibley cleaner and have less deposits than engines run on average fuels,

After taking that on board I just might give V-power a go.

Thanks for your input (from a man who just fills up anywhere! )

 

[Osgee]

No problem

The best way to think about it is to look at your taps in your house or your dish washer

If your taps and dishwashers are a few years old, the chances are the water ran through them will have left deposits and build ups limscale etc and all you will have done is used them in a normal fashion

This will be the a similar situation for your engine, along your fuel system injectors and in the combustion chambers etc....

Now if you only ever ran purer water through your house and dish washers the build up would be considerably less if any

Just like you can buy dish washer tablets to clean your system, Shell V-power also contains detergants to clean all the crap out of your engine as well as being like purer water to stop them building up in the 1st place.

 

[b1g1an]

Exactly what I've been trying to say all along and even more important with modern diesels, thank you for a professional opinion.

 

[Osgee]

I cant comment on Diesels as dont have much experience with them.

But I know the fuel system is very high pressure, and the higher performance Diesels tend to use use and extremely fine mist of fuel injection for more efficient performance so I can imagine the cleaning effect by these fuels would be more beneficial to Diesels

I do know the local Taxi drivers try to use Shell V-power Diesel and they make a living out of running there cars so I cant see them doing it without knowing the benefits.

 

[MarriedBlonde]

I think this is a case of those who dont use it, are trying to justify and reassure themselves thats its a all a gimmick and that 3-4PL they save is because they know its all false claims and not because there being a tight a**

Not at all, if I was a tight **** I would be driving around in a denzel powered car that does considerably more than the 12-15mpg I get out of my c63.

I am applying logic to the arguments being given in this thread. nothing more. If this fuel is so amazing then why dont the manufactures insist that we use it?

As previously posted I have used it on an off in the past, I do now in my car but I do not have a local shell garage to me. Plus past experience has shown me my cars are running fine.

I dare say if I was to keep a car and put hyper miles on it I may notice a difference 10 years down the line but that just could be that fuel technilogy is evolving naturally. Could it not?


J.