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SL60 or SL600 or ...? Confused

Advertised prices aren't generally the prices they have sold at. The highest price I've known one sell for was the red one I mentioned at £30,000 which was also the most recent other than mine and was very low mileage, one owner with a good range of owners and from a dealer.

You can't really base it on currently advertised prices as most haven't sold and I think have been for sale for quite a long time.

Given the serious interest I have had in mine I probably could have got very close to asking but as it is I accepted what I believe to be a fair offer which I am not going to disclose.

When looking for mine it was considered at the top end of prices at the time and I have spent several thousand pounds improving it further. It is very high specification and probably a one off.

Around two and a half years ago when I was looking I could have bought one for less than £11,000 but I considered the work required to be too much for me. It was bought and done up and I believe though on sale for higher sold for a reasonable sum less than £20,000.

Jay bought his for quite a lot less too and has since spent a lot of time and money improving it to the point that it's now immaculate and hence worth a lot more than he paid.

I remember what you offered me yours for at the time as well.

There were a couple of others around the time, one of which at least was a bit ropey.

Prices have risen strongly but I would still argue the range is probably from significantly less than £20,000 to about £30,000 depending on condition, mileage, options etc.

There is more I could add but I don't want to disrespect the confidence of others.

It will be interesting to see what the silver one goes for at auction but I can't really judge without knowledge of the condition.

The point of my post was to give what I believe to be a more balanced view of pricing of SL60s.

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with you. It rather sounds like you've not got the price you wanted and so are trying talk prices down. I'd like to know your "evidence" and frankly I'm a wee bit concerned that you the evidence you say you have is based on "confidences" that cannot be shared. Viz: "There is more I could add but I don't want to disrespect the confidence of others."

Johnny told Fred who said to Mabel, sure....., for heavens sake. :dk:

I don't recall offering my car to you, but if I did, and if it was before Aug 2012, then my Hb was 8.2, I was in and out of hospital for emergency blood transfusions and then had major surgery for cancer. At that point and for a good while later I just wanted to simplify my life. Any offered price at that time was not a market price but one driven by my ill-health.

You have no idea what I have spent on my car but you offer that fact that Jay has spent a lot on his to make it now worth: "considerably more". Between £25K and £30K mayhap?

To say that they don't sell is nonsense. Good 60's always sell, those that hang around tend to be LHD or imports or overpriced.

The bottom line is that good honest 60's are few and far between and are in my opinion in the £25K to £30K range. That opinion is based on my researches and observations over the last eight years. You are entitled to your opinions, but I would prefer that they were backed by evidence. You think clearly otherwise, so fine, go and buy a few for "considerably less than £20K" and sell them on, you say you've had a lot of interest.

So, tell me, did you get more than £25K, if you did I rest my case.
 
You do like to argue don't you Ian.

Believe me I am not trying to talk the prices down. I think you might be doing the opposite.

My view and I am happy to be corrected by someone with professional knowledge is that the range of prices is wider than £25,000 - £30,000. I suppose it depends on what your definition of good is. I would say an excellent one would be in that range. Good would be a wider range and not so good even less.

I won't say what you offered yours for at the time but it was around market value when I think what I paid for mine and others I know of sold for or paid for theirs though I've never seen yours so can't comment on condition. All I know is the options and rough mileage.

And in terms of what I got for mine, I had a good offer from the first person to view it, the second person then offered me as close to what I was after that I was happy to sell it and I since had two other serious buyers wanting me to let them know if the sale doesn't go through. I don't feel it is right to disclose the details of the deal as it is between me and the relevant parties and the car has not been collected yet.

And this isn't a court Ian. I don't have to give evidence but my comments are based on facts and experience.

My thoughts are that when available, good ones used to start around £15,000 with those in poorer condition for less (about 2 and a half years ago). Now I would say the starting price has gone up but not as far as £25,000.
 
Interesting discussion. Dan's car does look special so would command a premium over rather more 'ordinary' SL60 prices. Mileage makes a big difference to prices - illogically in many cases, but it does. Ian, I can see from old posts what you paid for yours 7 years ago and some rise in this would seem sensible given the market. However, UK prices are outstripping those abroad (and significantly if what Ian says is true)

At the end of the day it's what a particular car is worth to a buyer - if more than one chase the same car it might mean a slightly firmer price
 
Peter, you are correct. The main point of my message was for you not to think that £25,000 is likely to be the minimum entry level for an SL60 and therefore be put off. All of the information I go off is from speaking to owners and dealers rather than advertised prices. Feel free to contact me if you want any help relating to your search.
 
sl60 is amg modified v8 model 100++% better than v12 sl600

In what way "better"? Both offer similar power and torque. One is long obsolete and forgotten, another still powers Zonda's 800 HP super cars. Quite the opposite I would say, despite the hype.
 
You do like to argue don't you Ian.

Believe me I am not trying to talk the prices down. I think you might be doing the opposite.

My view and I am happy to be corrected by someone with professional knowledge is that the range of prices is wider than £25,000 - £30,000. I suppose it depends on what your definition of good is. I would say an excellent one would be in that range. Good would be a wider range and not so good even less.

I won't say what you offered yours for at the time but it was around market value when I think what I paid for mine and others I know of sold for or paid for theirs though I've never seen yours so can't comment on condition. All I know is the options and rough mileage.

And in terms of what I got for mine, I had a good offer from the first person to view it, the second person then offered me as close to what I was after that I was happy to sell it and I since had two other serious buyers wanting me to let them know if the sale doesn't go through. I don't feel it is right to disclose the details of the deal as it is between me and the relevant parties and the car has not been collected yet.

And this isn't a court Ian. I don't have to give evidence but my comments are based on facts and experience.

My thoughts are that when available, good ones used to start around £15,000 with those in poorer condition for less (about 2 and a half years ago). Now I would say the starting price has gone up but not as far as £25,000.

I'm not sure exactly what your game is, but I think you've just confirmed what I think it is.

Be secretive, stay in the shadows, I shan't be engaging or reading this thread any further. Bye.
 
I'm not sure exactly what your game is, but I think you've just confirmed what I think it is.

Be secretive, stay in the shadows, I shan't be engaging or reading this thread any further. Bye.

No game Ian, not everyone has an agenda. I was just trying to provide a balanced view to help the OP. I would think that having sold mine and not being after another I am in a pretty impartial position.

I would think most people would respect me for exercising my discression with regards posting the details of specific deals on a public form the details of which I have been told in confidence or at least I have assumed to have been in confidence as they have not said otherwise.
 
Seems to me like you simply have a difference of opinion that happens all the time in the valuation of cars. I can't recall ever going to an auction where there was not a single difference of opinion of the sale price of a car. You normally always get a difference even between the experienced auctioneers and 'experts'.

Ian - you've obviously done your research and own one, and Dan has just sold his, so I think you both have valuable opinions, it's just that they differ.

I'm sure the OP is glad to get multiple points of view in preparation for looking at some SL's and hopefully buying one - at the right price that is. ;) ;)

cheers, Steve
 
Seems to me like you simply have a difference of opinion that happens all the time in the valuation of cars. I can't recall ever going to an auction where there was not a single difference of opinion of the sale price of a car. You normally always get a difference even between the experienced auctioneers and 'experts'.

Ian - you've obviously done your research and own one, and Dan has just sold his, so I think you both have valuable opinions, it's just that they differ.

I'm sure the OP is glad to get multiple points of view in preparation for looking at some SL's and hopefully buying one - at the right price that is. ;) ;)

cheers, Steve

Thanks all, this has been helpful
 
Interesting thread Peter, thanks for starting. Good luck in your decision-making. I've just started down this road myself!
 
To say that they don't sell is nonsense. Good 60's always sell, those that hang around tend to be LHD or imports or overpriced.

The bottom line is that good honest 60's are few and far between and are in my opinion in the £25K to £30K range. That opinion is based on my researches and observations over the last eight years.

Ian, whenever I read one of your SL60 related comments, I think back to your post here, having walked away from your car last year. I often wonder if you can't recognise a tarnished grille, how can you be such an aficionado?
 
I wondered how long it would be before you came in. Good night.
 
Looks to me a SL600 with AMG bodykit and exhaust and that's it. . No such thing as SL600 AMG.

R129 V12 worth having is a Silver Arrow edition and the holy grail 7.3 AMG. And this is just my opinion and not based on any research !!
 
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I've never driven a 600 but would like to. I think the low prices are due to people being worried about the potential maintenance costs of it being a V12, the ADS and probably the mpg just being a step to far rather than performance and handling aspects. I can't comment on the mechanical aspects of the V12 but liked the ADS and had no problems with it. Personally I think they are a bit of a bargain. A large part of the appeal of SL60s is the rarity in terms of owning something a bit special and also my thinking was that if I'm likely to spend a fair bit on improving the car then that money is more likely to be rewarded with an SL60 due to no depreciation or increases in value.
 
This looks like a nice car for the money SL600 AMG For Sale (1996) on Car And Classic UK [C546733]
But as 'only' a SL600 I suppose the SL60 owners here will be quick to diss it!

M120 V12 is an epic engine of another proportion to a V8. Just the purr alone from a V12 will make you quickly forget you were after the '60'.

I'd say take one for a test drive and see if you like it.

They are sensibly priced too, which is a big plus.
 
R129 V12 worth having is a Silver Arrow edition

Wonder how many 600 Silver Arrows they made? I've never seen one in the UK, only 500s.

SA edition is not to everyone's taste.
 

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