My CLS55 Stage 3 Eurocharged

[ricky s]

Hi Ricky - Split cooling or additional cooling is something I will definitely do. I had a look at your tank at MSL tuning day and also Paul's, both very nicely done. The thing is I don't want to lose my spare and I cram stuff in every available bit of space around it below the boot floor. I Basically I'm hard to please with this as I want to keep my luggage area totally clear as I often carry quite a bit of stuff about for work and also need clear space for all my fishing gear!

I really don't drive my car very hard and don't do any racing, but just want to be sure I have the full power on tap whenever I put my foot down. I already have the larger HE, which has made a big difference, but I do notice the power does drop off a bit after a few hard pulls. I really need to understand the system better as I was thinking maybe another HE could be added in front of the main radiator. But clearly this must be folly as it would be being done by others. Please excuse my ignorance here

I think Ginger 55 has KC fitted, not 100%, I know another 2 guy's here playing with one, and I have one en route, perhaps if not going out to play at the events Simon, that's a route that should be explored, may be an easier install, and leave the boot free for the fishing tackle. Did see your boot at Acids, floor to ceiling with luggage, although think some of it was Jerrys, I recall.

 

[BlackC55]

That's why I'm thinking more along the lines of additional cooling rather than some form of ice tank. I can't see me ever needing to use ice, I just want to be able to p*ss all over M5's and RS6's without having to worry about my s/c cutting out

Come on Billy - chime in:bannana:

It is the recovery rate that is the best thing about the tank. It recovers the intake temp so fast.

If you are sat in traffic too and letting the intake temps build up it will keep everything nice an cool with regards to the charger cooling.

 

[ChrisA]

That's why I'm thinking more along the lines of additional cooling rather than some form of ice tank. I can't see me ever needing to use ice, I just want to be able to p*ss all over M5's and RS6's without having to worry about my s/c cutting out

Come on Billy - chime in:bannana:

I can already put those to shame without heat issues. Trouble is, on a long run on the Autobahn at 03:00hrs for a few hundred km's I may/may not need more additional cooling.
I will definitely need it if I'm invited to Vmax

 

[simon1966]

It is the recovery rate that is the best thing about the tank. It recovers the intake temp so fast.

If you are sat in traffic too and letting the intake temps build up it will keep everything nice an cool with regards to the charger cooling.

Would another HE linked in not help in a similar way? Like I said Olly I really have no idea on how the system works, so forgive me if this is a stupid question!

 

[Cyclone1]

This has now turned into a good thread.....

 

[simon1966]

I can already put those to shame without heat issues. Trouble is, on a long run on the Autobahn at 03:00hrs for a few hundred km's I may/may not need more additional cooling.
I will definitely need it if I'm invited to Vmax

To be honest Chris, I haven't ever come across any in a situation where I could race, but you know what I mean.

I would have thought that long distance high speed runs such as what you do in Germany would cause real heat issues!?

 

[Ginger55k]

Regarding the tank install I have to agree with Ricky s, these beasts will end up getting your collar pulled if not careful.

I only wanted to have what i payed for regarding the horsepower, for me i had no intention to mod just wanted to improve the cooling during the summer months with a stock car, the difference was like night and day, yes it was fast in stock form but after a play you could feel the power slipping away, after the cooling mod the only way to describe it was a wild animal on a lead, the power was always there no matter how hard driven.

I still feel its a very worthwhile mod, and then oh dear pulley and map, i hate this forum

 

[BlackC55]

Would another HE linked in not help in a similar way? Like I said Olly I really have no idea on how the system works, so forgive me if this is a stupid question!

Not a stupid question at all.

Yes it could work. It's space that might be an issue.

The good thing about the cooling box is that the pipework also acts as a radiator as well as the box itself. It may contain more water too?

 

[BlackC55]

To be honest Chris, I haven't ever come across any in a situation where I could race, but you know what I mean.

I would have thought that long distance high speed runs such as what you do in Germany would cause real heat issues!?

Yes it would 100%

 

[ChrisA]

To be honest Chris, I haven't ever come across any in a situation where I could race, but you know what I mean.

I would have thought that long distance high speed runs such as what you do in Germany would cause real heat issues!?

It's not been an issue so far.......
Cruising around the 150-160 mark and a burst to 200 for a few miles on a clear run with my Summer's on and never been an issue. With my Winter tyres, cruise 120-130 with a few miles at 150.
Like was just posted, the power will decrease the more you hit it but I've not had any heat issues due to the Mods already installed

 

[simon1966]

Not a stupid question at all.

Yes it could work. It's space that might be an issue.

The good thing about the cooling box is that the pipework also acts as a radiator as well as the box itself. It may contain more water too?

I found a thread on MBworld a long time ago where effectively an additional radiator was mounted in front of the main radiator. Not sure of the details now but will see if I can find it. That may have been in the days before the larger HE's were in existence though!?

 

[ChrisA]

I found a thread on MBworld a long time ago where effectively an additional radiator was mounted in front of the main radiator. Not sure of the details now but will see if I can find it. That may have been in the days before the larger HE's were in existence though!?

I think Paul has that set up. I will ask him when he knocks on my door at 19:00hrs tonight

 

[simon1966]

I think Paul has that set up. I will ask him when he knocks on my door at 19:00hrs tonight

Paul has split cooling with the rear boot mounted tank and larger HE.

 

[ricky s]

It is the recovery rate that is the best thing about the tank. It recovers the intake temp so fast.

If you are sat in traffic too and letting the intake temps build up it will keep everything nice an cool with regards to the charger cooling.

I appreciate the recovery time cooling Ollie, and yes agree very beneficial, but for cars stuck in traffic in this country, your not going to be getting full on pulls from then on anyway, because its England, 1 big traffic jam, so not overly in need of the SC cooling bar general health to the SC, and if driving that hard on the roads, it just brings me back to my previous comments, as full on pulls in these cars, we all know the speeds you would be travelling.
I know everyone's raising different scenario's here over this cooling, and it's making great reading, but going back to Simon's car, what would you advise, genuine question, me, thinking KC, what's your own thoughts, as from what I have read Gingers 55 car that you worked on is very successful, and looked like a relatively easy install as car mods go.

 

[simon1966]

This is the MBworld thread I was thinking of (Post 17). As said its from a long time ago so may now be proved as not being effective

IC Cooling Upgrade Question - MBWorld.org Forums

 

[BlackC55]

The best way to go would be the cooling box. We could try an additional HE just to see what happens. We may have to make one though to get it to fit in an already tight space.

 

[ricky s]

The best way to go would be the cooling box. We could try an additional HE just to see what happens. We may have to make one though to get it to fit in an already tight space.

That's interesting Ollie, not a KC.

I was hoping it would be, more so, as one of the guys and myself have different opinions to how to deploy the proposed KC we have brought and are potentially taking different routes so that may well be interesting reading later, probably end up with me ripping mine out and re plumbing it!. But going to stick to my theory for now, and see how it fares.

 

[simon1966]

The best way to go would be the cooling box. We could try an additional HE just to see what happens. We may have to make one though to get it to fit in an already tight space.

I'm sure it would need fabricating, the one in that link was made to sit in that space as its pretty narrow!

 

[BillyCR]

That's why I'm thinking more along the lines of additional cooling rather than some form of ice tank. I can't see me ever needing to use ice, I just want to be able to p*ss all over M5's and RS6's without having to worry about my s/c cutting out

Come on Billy - chime in:bannana:

Sorry mate got tied up, by the time you old boys stop spinning your wheels, you will need the hubble telescope to see my numberplate

 

[Ginger55k]

This is the MBworld thread I was thinking of (Post 17). As said its from a long time ago so may now be proved as not being effective

IC Cooling Upgrade Question - MBWorld.org Forums

I did see another thread over on that site but cannot find it, this was i think a rear tank 2 pump system with upgraded HE at the front and the weird bit another HE panel fitted at a slight angle on the underside of the car, not sure if it worked or not, it would be very vunerable in that location anyway and i think it was set up for quarter mile runs so not valid as a daily drive.