Range of speed camera van surprising ....

[smillion]

I have just had a Notice of Intended Prosecution in the post for doing 82mph on dual carriageway A303.

Logged into the site and can see a picture of the E55 with the top banner quoting the 82mph and stating I was 480m away - did not know they had such a long range ...............

Anyone know whether they will do fixed penalty @ 82 or will it be court?

No points at present but did a speed awareness last year ....

Cheers

Marc

 

[renault12ts]

Yep...if they can see you they can record your speed. Think of it like this...when you see them...its too late!

 

[Charles Morgan]

I got done on the A303 at 85 last year (Wylye valley) - my first SP30 in 15 years. It was a dual carriageway so it should be fixed penalty for you. I normally don't do that speed (honest occifer..) but having been forced onto the A303 by resurfacing works on the M5 it is one of those roads where if you don't clear a slowcoach when you can, you can be stuck for miles. They did not offer me a speed awareness course either.

I recall once being overtaken in my Range Rover coming back from shooting by an E55k estate on a steep dual carriageway section. It was like being passed by a rocket ship and I wasn't hanging around either.

Anyway, my sympathies.

 

[219]

I think they (laser cameras) have a range of 1 Km or more , but I believe there are guidelines limiting them to a range of something like 500m , so I guess they waited until you were within this range .

Sadly , since you were offered a speed awareness course before , I suspect you may not be offered a second one ( unless a different authority and they don't talk to each other ? ) .

I think 82mph ( not much omer than 10% over ) will be a fixed penalty - I think from another thread it came out that FP applies up to something like 96 ( and is discretionary to a little over 100 ) .

 

[smillion]

Lets just say it could have been worse .... I did see him but at half a Km thought I was OK at that stage ...........

Shame cos those that know the road - it is a long sweeping dual carriageway, and, certainly at this time of day (2pm sunny and clear) practically empty (unlike a bank holiday). It is hilly and so you come over a crest and BAM, down in the valley a van. Oh well.

 

[stevesey]

Have my inforad set to the longest warning time - means it should start beeping at about 900m at motorway/dual carriageway speeds.

 

[A210AMG]

I thought your E55 was so low it went under the radar.....


Obviously not....



Maybe you need it painted in steath matt black

 

[st4]

You could invest in a road angel and not be silly like me and have it in your car and it bleeps near all the known sites.

 

[smillion]

I thought your E55 was so low it went under the radar

I have to say it does look good in the picture

You could invest in a road angel and not be silly like me and have it in your car and it bleeps near all the known sites

Tom Tom (with camera settings) is in the boot cos I am determined that the useless navigation in Comand will redeem itself one day (completely and utterly useless) - yes I miss the camera warnings - you are quite right!

 

[Rory]

I think they (laser cameras) have a range of 1 Km or more , but I believe there are guidelines limiting them to a range of something like 500m , so I guess they waited until you were within this range .

Sadly , since you were offered a speed awareness course before , I suspect you may not be offered a second one ( unless a different authority and they don't talk to each other ? ) .

I think 82mph ( not much omer than 10% over ) will be a fixed penalty - I think from another thread it came out that FP applies up to something like 96 ( and is discretionary to a little over 100 ) .

They are approved up to 1Km. The picture you get (or see online) is taken from a video which runs continuously - they don't take still pictures like a GATSO does.

One issue is they sometimes zap your speed at long range and then track the car closer to get a clear picture of the registration and the driver so they were sending (or showing) people 2 pictures and there's an issue with continuity of evidence there.

However if the picture at 480m has your speed and your registration is clearly readable then you're a bit stuffed, and it will be a fixed penalty at this speed.

 

[Rory]

You could invest in a road angel and not be silly like me and have it in your car and it bleeps near all the known sites.

It would have to bleep at every motorway and A road bridge!

Driving along the M42 the other day there were white vans on two of the bridges - turned out they were "innocent" but caused mayhem in the traffic on the motorway, especially one of them which was somehow hidden by an earlier bridge and only appeared at the last minute.

 

[jasonyw]

I have just had a Notice of Intended Prosecution in the post for doing 82mph on dual carriageway A303.

Logged into the site and can see a picture of the E55 with the top banner quoting the 82mph and stating I was 480m away - did not know they had such a long range ...............

Anyone know whether they will do fixed penalty @ 82 or will it be court?

No points at present but did a speed awareness last year ....

Cheers

Marc

Can you kind enough to post the link how you can view it online, not your, but in general so others like me can see mine too.

 

[neilrr]

FightBack Forums

 

[verysideways]

I know someone who got done by a laser (handheld unit on a tripod, police car along side) between Swindon and Gloucester - they had him when he was over 1400 metres away.
Good few years ago now.

 

[Aoraki]

As already said, should be fixed penalty. I don't think you can do another speed awareness course within 3 years of your last. (or is it only 1 year, that doesn't help now does it!!!)

 

[camerafodder]

Most full bore hunting rifles have a range greater than 480m

 

[BTB 500]

I'm sure I remember some kind of guideline stating that a measuring device like RADAR/LASER was only supposed to obtain evidence to support a prior opinion that the car was speeding. So they weren't supposed to be used at very long distances (even though technically capable of doing so) because it wouldn't be possible for a human to first judge that the vehicle was speeding, at that range ...

 

[G.O'Rilla]

They are approved up to 1Km. The picture you get (or see online) is taken from a video which runs continuously - they don't take still pictures like a GATSO does.

One issue is they sometimes zap your speed at long range and then track the car closer to get a clear picture of the registration and the driver so they were sending (or showing) people 2 pictures and there's an issue with continuity of evidence there.

However if the picture at 480m has your speed and your registration is clearly readable then you're a bit stuffed, and it will be a fixed penalty at this speed.

When I was caught speeding on the A14 I went up and had a look at the film. I was targeted at about 800 m and then with the camera in "lock" mode I was tracked continuously closer until I was clearly identifiable as the driver. They also informed me of the following: a) they are type approved up to 1000m and b) under the ACPO guidelines they allow the usual margin of 10% +2mph then it's the fixed penalty but if 25mph over or more on a 70mph stretch then it's the magistrate and lots of points. I was caught at 94mph on an empty road. The video was very high quality

 

[flango]

I'm sure I remember some kind of guideline stating that a measuring device like RADAR/LASER was only supposed to obtain evidence to support a prior opinion that the car was speeding. So they weren't supposed to be used at very long distances (even though technically capable of doing so) because it wouldn't be possible for a human to first judge that the vehicle was speeding, at that range ...

I believe that is the reason for the 1Km limit as it is easy to see 1Km from a motorway bridge on a straight, but you are quite right the laser gun is for corroboration of a suspected offence. That throws up a whole grey area of civilian operated devices being used for prosecution, this is currently in European courts for a ruling

 

[Rory]

I'm sure I remember some kind of guideline stating that a measuring device like RADAR/LASER was only supposed to obtain evidence to support a prior opinion that the car was speeding.

That's quite true, but it's always struck me as bonkers - the operator (who will know the rules) is hardly likely stand up in court and admit that he zaps everything on the off-chance.