SmartAmg
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Yep, that would be Scary, it's happened with ICE cars over the years, remember reading about them.
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No it's definitely an EV specific extra fear. Never happened whatsoever on ICE cars, definitely never had sticking accelerator pedals on badly designed RHD cars , cough cough Clio, MK4 Escort
SmartAmg
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Definitely happened on ICE cars,No it's definitely an EV specific extra fear. Never happened whatsoever on ICE cars, definitely never had sticking accelerator pedals on badly designed RHD cars , cough cough Clio, MK4 Escort
if I recall, one involved the Cruise Control stuck on.
At least with an ICE you can dip the clutch and knock it out of gear plus you will still have the brakes.
What’s a clutch, haven’t had one for years?
EVs have brakes too fyi
I had an early Jag XF that started to run full steam ahead, luckily I managed to slow, pull over to a stop and turn the engine off. The Jag recovery technician said we were lucky as they normally won’t turn off until they go bang!
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And it's the second time it happened to the same bloke in the same Jaguar . The ICE car that (most famously) did the same some decades ago was a Lexus in the USA , everyone in the car dies live on the phone.
It's probably out there on the interweb somewhere.
What the lazy journalist used as a headline was something like 'brake failure' , It wasn't really brake failure , it was some sort of system failure that kept the electrical drive motor on when the driver wanted the opposite. I'm pretty sure brakes came into it at some point , but it was more than brake failure.
It's probably out there on the interweb somewhere.
What the lazy journalist used as a headline was something like 'brake failure' , It wasn't really brake failure , it was some sort of system failure that kept the electrical drive motor on when the driver wanted the opposite. I'm pretty sure brakes came into it at some point , but it was more than brake failure.
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No it's definitely an EV specific extra fear. Never happened whatsoever on ICE cars, definitely never had sticking accelerator pedals on badly designed RHD cars , cough cough Clio, MK4 Escort
Very rare, but certainly not unheard off, been reported as far back as the eighties:
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'Help, I'm doing 135mph and can't stop'
A quiet Sunday afternoon drive home from visiting friends turned into a terrifying 135mph ordeal for a motorist after the accelerator on his BMW jammed and the car's brakes failed.
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The Audi 5000 Unintended Acceleration Debacle - Blowing Smoke - Curbside Classic
(originally published in 2007 at ttac.com. First posted here on 10/22/2015) When I first heard about the Audi “Sudden Unintended Acceleration” segment on CBS’s 60 Minutes in 1986, I knew […]
Audi Sudden Acceleration: VWoA Recalls in 1982 and 1983 - The Center for Auto Safety
Audi Sudden Acceleration: In 1982 and 1983, VWoA twice recalled 1978-83 Audi 5000 cars due to reports of sudden acceleration. Learn more about the recalls and auto safety.
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Very rare, but certainly not unheard off, been reported as far back as the eighties:
Sudden unintended acceleration - Wikipedia
My comment was tongue in cheek.
I wouldn't even call it rare. Back in the good ole days I knew 2 people that were caught out by sticky MK4 Escort accelerator pedals including one 70mph hump back bridge Dukes of Hazard type car landing destruction. I'm pretty sure there was also a MK1 Laguna Autobox launching by itself issue as well.
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Unless it's Automatic.
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The point is it's happened with ICE cars going back over a number of years. But now because it's happened with an EV it's suddenly "NEWS"
I think that because an ICE car is a mixture of mechanical end electronic components, there's an assumption that the driver can still gain control over the car.
But with an EV being mostly electric/electronic, there's a fear that the computer will take over and the human will totally lose control.
But we should keep in mind that mechanical systems can also become uncontrollable, e.g. :
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Select neutral - danger to life and limb removed.
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A diesel can always be shut down by depriving it of air. A block of wood over the air intake / turbo inlet will suffice.
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True, although it is easier said than done, especially from the driver's seat... and it takes a brave man to lift open the bonnet and muck about with the air intake when the engine is roaring at max rev and engine bay is full of thick smoke. Of course, if you happen to be standing next to the engine bay with the bonnet up, and you happen to have a heavy piece of cloth handy, and you catch it when it just started, and you immediately understand what is happing - then yes, it is feasible. But in all other eventualities - not so much.
The other option, BTW, if to get the car against a wall, put it in gear and release the clutch - again, only possible is some circumstances, but it might stall the engine (assuming it does not burn the clutch).
The reality is that almost all cases of runaway Diesel engine end with the engine destroying itself, and/or catching fire.
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Not while blasting down the Motorway out of control, you can't.
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Ah, OK, didn't know you could do that with an Auto, when moving.
In this respect, there's no difference in essence between EV and ICE - in either case the transmission transfer to Neutral is electronic, not mechanical, and if the computer decides that you can't put the car in Neutral, then you can't put the car in Neutral... end of.
Also, the same applies to turning off the car (EV) or switching off the ignition (ICE) - these days the systems are both electronic, nor mechanical and not even electric- i.e. you are not 'cutting off' electricity to the engine, like with the ignition switches of old. Again, if the computer decides that it's not having it - then you're effed....
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All rather academic really seeing as diesel runway is exceptionally rare. Probably because common rail diesels are generally pretty fussy about the type of oil they can burn.
