The EV fact thread

[ChipChop]

Are we seriously looking at allowing pullouting vehicles to only operate downwind.......?

There is no air pollution problem in Tynemouth to begin with so your premise that childrens health is in danger is a nonsensical starting point. About sums up the neo-green movement though. I purchase the latest battery powered rubbish from China therefore i am saving the planet.

 

[markjay]

There is no air pollution problem in Tynemouth to begin with so your premise that childrens health is in danger is a nonsensical starting point. About sums up the neo-green movement though. I purchase the latest battery powered rubbish from China therefore i am saving the planet.

If you read my post again, I didn't go as far as mentioning children's health.

The topic discussed was use EV vans, and clean air.

I said that "school kids are now breathing cleaner air".

This is a simple logical conclusion, if you replace Diesel vans with EV vans, then the air in the areas where they are driven is bound to be cleaner. I don't see how it can possibly not be the case.

You may argue that there are no demonstrable health benefits to breathing cleaner air. If so, then we'll have to leave it there......

 

[BTB 500]

Should be straightforward in future to have an ancient EV modified to be powered by a then-new-tech battery replacing the outdated ones we have today.

As mentioned the battery monitoring/ charging systems integrated into EVs are highly specific to the cell chemistry they use. You couldn't (for example) slot a modern Lipo pack into a Toyota or Lexus hybrid with a failed NiMH one - you'd have to replace virtually all the electronics, probably fit a heating/charging circuit, radiator, etc. Definitely not straightforward!

 

[Will]

So we don’t buy an EV now because in 40 years time we might be using different battery tech and it might be a bit complicated to retro-fit alternative tech instead?

Who would want to drive a 40 year old EV? Just buy a new one!

How many of the anti-EV crowd will still be alive in 40 years’ time?

 

[BTB 500]

Who would want to drive a 40 year old EV?

Presumably the same sort of people who have older 'classic' cars now?

 

[MeQ]

So we don’t buy an EV now because in 40 years time we might be using different battery tech and it might be a bit complicated to retro-fit alternative tech instead?

Who would want to drive a 40 year old EV? Just buy a new one!

How many of the anti-EV crowd will still be alive in 40 years’ time?

Hopefully in 40 years time they will be more convenient, mine has been plugged in since I got home charging at 7.5p per kWh… what a ball ache

 

[clk320x]

Hopefully in 40 years time they will be more convenient, mine has been plugged in since I got home charging at 7.5p per kWh… what a ball ache

I wish they’d make them DC charge a bit slower, barely finished my burger and it was ready to go.

 

[markjay]

I wish they’d make them DC charge a bit slower, barely finished my burger and it was ready to go.

How big was the burger......... ?

 

[SmartAmg]

How big was the burger......... ?

A Whopper!

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

And there's more....

UK drivers make claims of ‘dangerous’ electric car faults

Motorists locked inside their cars, while an NHS doctor said her BMW iX accelerated to 65mph and then crashed

www.theguardian.com

They're all queuing up with "out of control" IPace stories now

Craig Phillips: TV star shaken after Jaguar brakes fail during drive

Craig Phillips describes "terrifying feeling" when brakes failed on his Jaguar I-Pace

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SmartAmg]

They're all queuing up with "out of control" IPace stories now

Craig Phillips: TV star shaken after Jaguar brakes fail during drive

Craig Phillips describes "terrifying feeling" when brakes failed on his Jaguar I-Pace

www.bbc.co.uk

Now that's a suprise! (Not)

 

[Petrol Pete]

Probably going to take a big ipace accident in the USA before anyone at JLR takes this seriously . They have history of not giving a stuff about their customers recently.

 

[philnewmerc]

Now that's a suprise! (Not)

My old CLS has a brake by wire design. But it has a mechanical link too, so that in an emergency you still have some brakes. Is he saying that he had two faults simultaneously, 1) the car accelerated madly, and 2) he had no brakes? Sounds highly unlikely.

Is it not more likely he booted it and is using it as an excuse not to be fined? Or, there was an electric brake issue, but he didn't realise he just needed to press the pedal a bit harder? (I am assuming that EVs have a mechanical emergency linkage? Surely that is the case?)

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Probably going to take a big ipace accident in the USA before anyone at JLR takes this seriously . They have history of not giving a stuff about their customers recently.

"Recently?"

Does that include HR Owen Kings Cross not giving a stuff about my Sovereign thirty years ago?

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

So, egress from a motor vehicle while under water: would she have been safer in a Mercedes ICE than a Tesla X, with its electrickery and those gullwing doors ?

(More than likely that she will have been drinking before driving this very short distance inside the large private estate)

(Sorry that it's Daily Mail but it's either that or the NY Post)

Angela Chao drowned after fatal mistake in her Tesla, called for help

 

[Petrol Pete]

"Recently?"

Does that include HR Owen Kings Cross not giving a stuff about my Sovereign thirty years ago?

Yes , but the internet was not as powerful back then

 

[markjay]

So, egress from a motor vehicle while under water: would she have been safer in a Mercedes ICE than a Tesla X, with its electrickery and those gullwing doors ?

(More than likely that she will have been drinking before driving this very short distance inside the large private estate)

(Sorry that it's Daily Mail but it's either that or the NY Post)

Angela Chao drowned after fatal mistake in her Tesla, called for help

A layman's question - I can understand that while there's water outside and atmospheric-pressure air inside, it is difficult to push the door open from inside the cabin of a fully submerged car. The advice to quickly open the windows before the car sinks (allowing the pressure inside the car to be equalised with the external water pressure) therefore makes sense.

However, it seems that people trapped in submerged die of drowning and not of suffocation, and the question is - once water fills the car, it should then be again possible to push open the door and escape?

(If the doors are locked and can't be unlocked mechanically that's obviously another issue)

 

[markjay]

On another note, there's mentioning of the unfortunate lady having had 'food and drink', and that it was 'only a 4 minute drive' back to her home, but it wasn't made clear whether she was actually impaired by alcohol and unfit to drive.

 

[Bellow]

However, it seems that people trapped in submerged die of drowning and not of suffocation, and the question is - once water fills the car, it should then be again possible to push open the door and escape?

The vehicle will fill with water via the various vents even without opening a window only more slowly. Opening the window speeds the process and therefore the last bit of air just before the car is completely filled with water will still be oxygen rich. It is from that reservoir the occupants should take a deep breath before opening the doors and ascending to the surface, As with many other emergency situations, survival depends on keeping calm enough to enact the procedure.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

The vehicle will fill with water via the various vents even without opening a window only more slowly. Opening the window speeds the process and therefore the last bit of air just before the car is completely filled with water will still be oxygen rich. It is from that reservoir the occupants should take a
deep breath before opening the doors and ascending to the surface, As with many other emergency situations, survival depends on keeping calm enough to enact the procedure.

Aye, and the answer to my question?

Is an ICE safer? (Because they're less prone to excess electrickery). I don’t know the answer.