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The EV fact thread

GrahamT said:
EV drivers are becoming the new motorway menace.
Seeing increasing numbers plodding along being over taken by HGV’s or just hogging lanes and holding everyone up ( with steamed up window because the heaters burn electricity )
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It's not even funny, this is where I was at.... not Lane hogging, but car steaming up, feet like ice cubes etc

And I was paying alot of money for the privilege.

It's cost me a shed load to hand it back, but it was either that, or 2.5 years more of payments and freezing during a cold snap.
 
NickW205C63 said:
It's not even funny, this is where I was at.... not Lane hogging, but car steaming up, feet like ice cubes etc

And I was paying alot of money for the privilege.

It's cost me a shed load to hand it back, but it was either that, or 2.5 years more of payments and freezing during a cold snap.
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Which EV did you have? 😂 Either you had no idea what you were doing, or have fabricated a story. Why would you need to freeze?

You’re spreading mis-information for the sake of brownie-points from the sceptics.
 
clk320x said:
Which EV did you have? 😂 Either you had no idea what you were doing, or have fabricated a story. Probably the latter.
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Why would I fabricate a story?

I had a Genesis Gv60, search my other posts on the matter.

No heated seats or steering wheel on a £65k car, a fact I didn't know until it was too late.

5am 137 mile drive and can only put the heating on for short bursts.

2.2 m/kwh in winter sometimes. Awful economy.

I actually like EV's, I have zero agenda thankyou.
 
NickW205C63 said:
Why would I fabricate a story?

I had a Genesis Gv60, search my other posts on the matter.

No heated seats or steering wheel on a £65k car, a fact I didn't know until it was too late.

5am 137 mile drive and can only put the heating on for short bursts.

2.2 m/kwh in winter sometimes. Awful economy.

I actually like EV's, I have zero agenda thankyou.
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You bought a £65k car without knowing what equipment it came with? I guess you also didn’t research the particular models real world range?

This isn’t an EV issue but more an issue of you not buying an EV which fits your requirements.

There are EVs which will do 250wh/miles in winter. I’m assuming yours didn’t have a heat pump. You could have also stopped to top up for a few minutes rather than ‘freezing’ - obviously not ideal but a few minutes of research would have shown you the real world range.

Your budget could have bought you a brand new Model Y and had £13k left in the bank, easily do the journey you need as well as have the heated steering/seats as standard, access to supercharger network etc.
 
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GrahamT said:
EV drivers are becoming the new motorway menace.
Seeing increasing numbers plodding along being over taken by HGV’s or just hogging lanes and holding everyone up ( with steamed up window because the heaters burn electricity )
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And what's worse is that the A3 is choc a bloc with EV drivers driving Internal combustion engined cars at just below the speed limit, because they've forgotten how to drive "properly."

Can't believe how many people drive "gently" rather than "con brio" these days it seemed to start just after Brexit and around the time of the Ukraine invasion, when petrol went over £1.40 a litre. (If anyone remembers that far back?)

While I always drive within the speed limit (No points on my licence, Sir) I love a bit of stick at the lights, and not even White Transit Man seems that bothered any more.

Fair accusation about EV drivers, sir, but are you SURE that they're aren't all kinds of geriatric (Over 35's) driving their Fiestas and Golfs slowly as well these days?

Could it be fuel cost ? Could it be speed cameras ? Could it be points already on the licence ? Could it be Green types "saving the planet?


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clk320x said:
Sounds like that’s very much your own fault.

You bought a £65k car without knowing what equipment it came with, you also undoubtedly didn’t research its real world range. This isn’t an EV issue but more an issue of you not buying an EV which fits your requirements.

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Quite the opposite. If you think I'd spend the kind of money I was spending without researching, I don't know what to say.

I ordered a car that was pre-ordered by the lease company.

Genesis are luxury Hyundai, Lexus to Toyota. There was alot of misinformation in the media regarding exact specification etc with journalists only testing cars with ALL the options ticked as it turns out.

I wasn't the only buyer to be caught out and subsequently Genesis have changed the standard specification on the sport plus (as it was) trim.

My wife has an ioniq 6, it's great.

So please stop with the judging of someone you don't even know.
 
clk320x said:
Your budget could have bought you a brand new Model Y and had £13k left in the bank, easily do the journey you need as well as have the heated steering/seats as standard, access to supercharger network etc.
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Hold on, Guv ! You're not seriously suggesting people buy SUV EV's with money, are you? "£13k in the bank?"

And there are a lot of folk around who wouldn't buy / lease / PCP a Tesla for many other reasons. ("A motor vehicle designed by Ipad Engineers")
 
clk320x said:
You bought a £65k car without knowing what equipment it came with? I guess you also didn’t research the particular models real world range?

This isn’t an EV issue but more an issue of you not buying an EV which fits your requirements.

There are EVs which will do 250wh/miles in winter. I’m assuming yours didn’t have a heat pump. You could have also stopped to top up for a few minutes rather than ‘freezing’ - obviously not ideal but a few minutes of research would have shown you the real world range.

Your budget could have bought you a brand new Model Y and had £13k left in the bank, easily do the journey you need as well as have the heated steering/seats as standard, access to supercharger network etc.
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I had a model Y on order, but ultimately I don't like Teslas product.

I need 300 motorway mile range year round, only the new model 3 will do that and again, see above.

I was paying 24p/kwh with ionity.

I'm not slagging EVS off, just giving the reasons as to why I handed my particular car back.

I spent 2 months deliberating over ordering replacement EV, but decided its not right for me at this time given my job.
 
NickW205C63 said:
I had a model Y on order, but ultimately I don't like Teslas product.

I need 300 motorway mile range year round, only the new model 3 will do that and again, see above.

I was paying 24p/kwh with ionity.

I'm not slagging EVS off, just giving the reasons as to why I handed my particular car back.
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Sorry if my original reply was rude, not my intention. Your first reply didn’t specify the particular model.
 
MikeInWimbledon said:
Hold on, Guv ! You're not seriously suggesting people buy SUV EV's with money, are you? "£13k in the bank?"

And there are a lot of folk around who wouldn't buy / lease / PCP a Tesla for many other reasons. ("A motor vehicle designed by Ipad Engineers")
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My point being it costs £13k less.
 
NickW205C63 said:
I'm a massive fan of EV's.

The Taycan is a dream car, but given my circumstances, it wasn't working out.
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I do like the Taycan but the lack of the safety net of the supercharger network is keeping me away, I do a fair few miles in mine so we have stuck with the Teslas. :)
 
clk320x said:
I do like the Taycan but the lack of the safety net of the supercharger network is keeping me away, I do a fair few miles in mine so we have stuck with the Teslas. :)
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The Taycan went from £600 or so a month (when our scheme was introduced) to £1100 or so through work and only the rwd would touch 300 miles (in optimal conditions). Obviously those prices are without spec added but include insurance maintainance etc

It's a magnificent car and I was hacked off the other day when a YouTube car salesman said "nobody dreams of owning a Taycan."

The i4 M50 would have ticked all boxes, was excellent value and is ultimately the order I should have kept, but the design is well... I guess it grows on you.
 
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clk320x said:
My point being it costs £13k less.
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My point is that it doesn't cost £13k less for the typical EV user.

Hardly anyone is paying cash for their Tesla Y or GV60, and that the "price difference" they face is nothing like the difference in theoretical list prices.

From Tesla's own website: " £302 / month after estimated savings"

And then there's the fundamental issue that a lot of drivers want an EV that drives like a car and don't want an EV designed by "Ipad Engineers"


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clk320x said:
I do like the Taycan but the lack of the safety net of the supercharger network is keeping me away, I do a fair few miles in mine so we have stuck with the Teslas. :)
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Pardon? Why do you think a Taycan, or a MINI, can't be charged on a Tesla Supercharger?

And what's wrong with the higher speed chargers all over the UK motorway network, in towns and outside supermarkets/


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Let's keep to the EV facts in this thread.
 
MikeInWimbledon said:
How long before this whole thread does a reverse takeover of www.mbclub.co.uk?

The clicks on this EV nonsense have overtaken the usual “how does this work on my comand screen” stuff
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Agreed, Mike. As I'm interested in an EV, thought this thread could be good. But it quickly spiralled into a thread of absolute utter drivel spouted about EVs. Shame really could've been good. Think we agree that EVs are not for everyone, and that's totally fair enough. If you don't want one, don't get one, simple really. 🙂
 
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