The EV fact thread

[markjay]

For this reason if I lived on - or very close to - a very fast road, then I would almost certainly use an EV for most journeys. I cringe when I see people pull out of their driveway and accelerate hard in to an NSL road following a cold start.

Although I get a kick from using ridiculous cars for mundane trips like taking the Smart Roadster on a 450 mile round trip for a day out, or taking the 250 SWB to the chip shop, I really should use our EV more for the latter - they’re perfect for that.

This car will probably fetch a good price when sold second hand due to 'low mileage'...

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[MikeInWimbledon]

Councils that do not have the foresight to invest in public chargers in their residential areas, will continue to see their city centres clogged-up with cars running cold engines and emitting even more harmful exhaust gasses than they normally would.

The City centres I use are usually clogged up with folks who live OUTSIDE the city centres and who drive in to "do their business."

From shopkeepers to Taxi Drivers, from Housewives to Pensioners: they all seem to live, and charge their EV's, in Suburbia. Usually overnight.

On driveways, or out side terraced houses

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Apparently, roadside pollution in outer London was down an average of 3.5% on what it would have been without ULEZ in the six months after the zone was extended in August 2023.
Of course that won't have been just the direct result of ULEZ, with people changing to less polluting vehicles also contributing. What's harder to measure is without ULEZ, how many of those less polluting vehicles would have been bought and how many people would have stayed out of the area.

Does correlation imply causation ?

UK life expectancy has fallen by half a year after ThatWhichCannotBeNamed in 2020. (From 79.7 to 79.2 for men, but don't panic, that's Life Expectancy from Birth, not for someone already your age)

Was this caused directly? Was this caused indirectly? Or was it caused by something else?

We've scrapped a lot of dirty cars, we've shoved a lot of (originally EU recommended) Diesels out of London, and we've shoved a lot of people into partial Working from Home. And then there's the lifecycle impact of Euro6 vehicles each year replacing Euro2, Euro3, and Euro4 as part of the general updating of the fleet.

The only thing we can be certain here is that local government now has a steady income stream of £300+ million a year, and we are on-track to more sophisticated road pricing using automated road gantries.

 

[Connoisseur]

Does correlation imply causation ?

UK life expectancy has fallen by half a year after ThatWhichCannotBeNamed in 2020. (From 79.7 to 79.2 for men, but don't panic, that's Life Expectancy from Birth, not for someone already your age)

Was this caused directly? Was this caused indirectly? Or was it caused by something else?

We've scrapped a lot of dirty cars, we've shoved a lot of (originally EU recommended) Diesels out of London, and we've shoved a lot of people into partial Working from Home. And then there's the lifecycle impact of Euro6 vehicles each year replacing Euro2, Euro3, and Euro4 as part of the general updating of the fleet.

The only thing we can be certain here is that local government now has a steady income stream of £300+ million a year, and we are on-track to more sophisticated road pricing using automated road gantries.

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“The only thing we can be certain here is that local government now has a steady income stream of £300+ million a year” £300 million from what?

 

[TC350]

Does correlation imply causation ?

UK life expectancy has fallen by half a year after ThatWhichCannotBeNamed in 2020. (From 79.7 to 79.2 for men, but don't panic, that's Life Expectancy from Birth, not for someone already your age)

Was this caused directly? Was this caused indirectly? Or was it caused by something else?

We've scrapped a lot of dirty cars, we've shoved a lot of (originally EU recommended) Diesels out of London, and we've shoved a lot of people into partial Working from Home. And then there's the lifecycle impact of Euro6 vehicles each year replacing Euro2, Euro3, and Euro4 as part of the general updating of the fleet.

The only thing we can be certain here is that local government now has a steady income stream of £300+ million a year, and we are on-track to more sophisticated road pricing using automated road gantries.

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We’ll never know how much ULEZ was responsible for reducing roadside pollution in London. We’d need a copy of London within a 100 miles or so but without ULEZ to determine how much, if any, influence it had.