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The EV fact thread

My mate @ChipChop has set up an independent Tesla repair shop and he said that if I buy an old, cheap, leggy example then he’ll look after it for just the trade cost of the parts, and he’ll throw in the labour for free. as he wants to bust some myths and show people that running an older EV is nothing to be scared of 😁
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My mate @ChipChop has set up an independent Tesla repair shop and he said that if I buy an old, cheap, leggy example then he’ll look after it for just the trade cost of the parts, and he’ll throw in the labour for free. as he wants to bust some myths and show people that running an older EV is nothing to be scared of 😁
You are either living in a fantasy world or have had too many NYE drinks already. Either way Happy New Year to one and all. Even Tesla drivers :cool:
 
Here are some EV facts. I’ve just checked the Tesla website to see what the journey would be like if we took at Model S on holiday to the South of France.

We’d stop five times for a total o 2 hours and 30 minutes, with each stop ranging between 25 and 50 minutes, in order to cover the 1,022 mile distance.

We’d easily stop five times and for a total in excess of 2h 30m, and four of the five stops are within a few miles of where we’ve stopped on the same run in an ICE car.

Seems reasonable. Now I wonder whether a car with free supercharger access would get us there for free? If so then the car could pay for itself in a few years. 🤔

Sounds plausible, always assuming that the charging stations you want to use are actually functional, or that there aren't queues of cars waiting to charge.
 
Sounds plausible, always assuming that the charging stations you want to use are actually functional, or that there aren't queues of cars waiting to charge.

In essence, building a charging station isn't more complicated than building a petrol station.

The petrol station network was built gradually over the years as people had more motorcars and demand increased.

There's no reason to assume that the same won't happen with charging stations over time as more people drive EVs.

As for energy production capacity, we've increased the number of our petroleum refineries and spread the depots to provide national coverage, I am sure we can do the same with electricity.

The remaining question is how do we replace our petroleum production and distribution with electricity production and distribution, while becoming green in the process? Sadly, I don't think we can... but my views regarding Western societies being wasteful aren't very popular it seems.
 
If you read the article it states Swedish electricians are refusing to service Tesla's charging points.
Ah, so you'd need to use one of the 25,000 EV charging points in Sweden which aren't Tesla's,

or even your friends' 13 amp supply,

or a Tesla point which isn't broken
 
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Here are some EV facts. I’ve just checked the Tesla website to see what the journey would be like if we took at Model S on holiday to the South of France.
We’d stop five times for a total o 2 hours and 30 minutes, with each stop ranging between 25 and 50 minutes, in order to cover the 1,022 mile distance.
We’d easily stop five times and for a total in excess of 2h 30m, and four of the five stops are within a few miles of where we’ve stopped on the same run in an ICE car.
Seems reasonable. Now I wonder whether a car with free supercharger access would get us there for free? If so then the car could pay for itself in a few years. 🤔

14 hours to drive to the Cote D'Azur, so a wise driver would stop overnight and for a couple of lunch breaks.

The problem is just finding a Tesla that you'd want to drive there. An MB S500 or E500 is a joy on that journey.
 
In essence, building a charging station isn't more complicated than building a petrol station.
The petrol station network was built gradually over the years as people had more motorcars and demand increased.
There's no reason to assume that the same won't happen with charging stations over time as more people drive EVs.
As for energy production capacity, we've increased the number of our petroleum refineries and spread the depots to provide national coverage, I am sure we can do the same with electricity.
The remaining question is how do we replace our petroleum production and distribution with electricity production and distribution, while becoming green in the process? Sadly, I don't think we can... but my views regarding Western societies being wasteful aren't very popular it seems.

Gott in Himmel, what is this obsession with petrol stations?
Supermarkets all over Europe already have EV charge points in their car parks, as do motorway service areas, decent hotels and town centres.

The 25,000 EV charging points in Sweden aren't all in dedicated "Service stations."
 
Gott in Himmel, what is this obsession with petrol stations?
Supermarkets all over Europe already have EV charge points in their car parks, as do motorway service areas, decent hotels and town centres.

The 25,000 EV charging points in Sweden aren't all in dedicated "Service stations."

Fair point, it's clearly far easier to stick a few fast chargers in an existing superstore carpark than to dig a new petrol station (though I'm sure there'll be some on here who'll explain in great detail how impossible it is to install a new charging point - anywhere in the UK..)
 
Sounds plausible, always assuming that the charging stations you want to use are actually functional, or that there aren't queues of cars waiting to charge.
Have you seen my screenshots? 😂😂😂
 
Yes Scandanavians can all carry on buying Tesla's safe in the knowledge an app says everythings ok.:D
App provided by the operator of the chargers or an EV-sceptic bloke on the Internet in a different country, hmmm difficult to know which source to trust 🤔

I dare say that Tesla drivers will probably have a fairly good working knowledge of which sites have multiple superchargers out of action, and which sites tend to be busiest (and at which times of day).
 
App provided by the operator of the chargers or an EV-sceptic bloke on the Internet in a different country, hmmm difficult to know which source to trust 🤔

I dare say that Tesla drivers will probably have a fairly good working knowledge of which sites have multiple superchargers out of action, and which sites tend to be busiest (and at which times of day).

A colleague at work is on his second Tesla, his first one came with unlimited free charging for life which I thought was nice... what I was going to say is that the display in his car showed him how many charging bays were free at each location and whether they were operational. So no guessing needed.
 
App provided by the operator of the chargers or an EV-sceptic bloke on the Internet in a different country, hmmm difficult to know which source to trust 🤔

I dare say that Tesla drivers will probably have a fairly good working knowledge of which sites have multiple superchargers out of action, and which sites tend to be busiest (and at which times of day).
I would imagine your best source of redress if you feel anxiety regarding the piece i referenced (below) is to take your complaint to the authors - The Washington Post. It was they who noted that Swedens electricians were refusing to maintain Tesla chargers. Apparently apps say all is ok and no maintainance needed. How clever! AI electrician?

 
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I would imagine your best source of redress if you feel anxiety regarding the piece i referenced (below) is to take your complaint to the authors - The Washington Post. It was they who noted that Swedens electricians were refusing to maintain Tesla chargers. Apparently apps say all is ok and no maintainance needed. How clever! AI electrician?

If a Rag owned by Bezos says all is good, then all is good.
 

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