UK proposals: Cycle Streets With 15mph Limit And No Overtaking

[KillerHERTZ]

That's not really answered my question has it?

How can you honestly expect to charge cyclists? Do they cause wear and tear on the road? No they actually reduce the number of cars using the roads. Do they use the motorway network? No

So how much would you charge kids on bikes?

 

[bamba]

So who pays for the cycle lane's then? I use my car for ONE mile a day 5 days a week so should i have to pay the full road tax amount?

 

[bamba]

And remember if everyone stopped using there cars for work social purposes etc, etc and started using cycles what do you think the goverment would do about the loss of income??

 

[KillerHERTZ]

So who pays for the cycle lane's then? I use my car for ONE mile a day 5 days a week so should i have to pay the full road tax amount?

You use a Diesel 5 days a week to drive 1 mile???

You still haven't answered my question, how much should kids pay?

 

[markjay]

And remember if everyone stopped using there cars for work social purposes etc, etc and started using cycles what do you think the goverment would do about the loss of income??

What would the government do if we all stopped drinking and smoking? The treasury will go bust.....

 

[bamba]

Yes that's right 1 mile a day

I don't know how much one should charge But then personally i don't like to see kids on bikes they scare me to death with there antics on the road

Should i have to pay full road tax?

 

[219]

Sorry to hear that, but it is probably just his bad luck more than anything else... here in London this is almost unheard of.

There are specific cycle patrol officers who are tasked primarily to police cyclists , unfortunately only a handful of them .

 

[Pacamack]

My bike has zero emissions so I don't pay VED for using it on the road, in line with other zero emission vehicles.

 

[st13phil]

Guys, this is not about who does or doesn't pay VED

As I've said before, if everyone (yes, that means everyone, including the urban warrior lycra louts) spent less time concentrating on their rights as road users, and more on their responsibilities then we could all successfully share the limited roadspace we have in some of our towns and cities.

Instead we have discriminatory legislation, dressed up as safety measures, when in reality it is about making personal motorised transport unpleasant to use.

 

[RKC-benz]

So who pays for the cycle lane's then? I use my car for ONE mile a day 5 days a week so should i have to pay the full road tax amount?

I don't think you understand the basics of taxation. It's about the common funding of social and public goods.

My wife and I don't have children but I don't go on forums of any sort arguing that i should pay any more or less for their education.

Basically it makes no sense. Ride a bike and get over it.

 

[markjay]

My bike has zero emissions so I don't pay VED for using it on the road, in line with other zero emission vehicles.

Do zero emission vehicles not use roads?

 

[buccal]

It's all bull****.

I have averaged 6k a year for the last 5 years commuting across london by bicycle, without incident.

On the 11th June I clipped a pot hole on one of our "superhighways".

I'm now sitting at home for 3 months with a fractured shoulder and facing possible surgery and even longer off.

Given that I pay road tax on 3 cars already exactly what difference is paying tax on my bicycle going to make?

 

[markjay]

...As I've said before, if everyone (yes, that means everyone, including the urban warrior lycra louts) spent less time concentrating on their rights as road users, and more on their responsibilities then we could all successfully share the limited roadspace we have in some of our towns and cities....

I actually agree with this bit. This is true both for cyclists who bang on your roof because they had to slow down, and for impatient motorists who honk at slow 'nuisance' cyclists.

 

[KillerHERTZ]

Yes that's right 1 mile a day

I don't know how much one should charge But then personally i don't like to see kids on bikes they scare me to death with there antics on the road

Should i have to pay full road tax?

Brilliant, so basically your saying no kids so go on bikes? Didn't you have a bike when you were a kid?

Have you thought about cycling for your 1 mile commute?

 

[krisby]

I think the most fundamental issue is educating of cyclists. People think because they can keep the bike upright they know how to ride on the road. Just like lawyers, 99% of cyclists give the other 1% a bad name.
On my commute to work all but 1 of the cyclists has a death wish, disregarding most road rules, holding up traffic when in the wrong lane, narrowly missing pedestrians, the usual stuff. I'm not saying car drivers are much better, but I am staggered that more cyclists don't have a higher sense of self preservation.
That means helmets are compulsory, headphones are illegal and red lights mean stop.

 

[Pacamack]

Do zero emission vehicles not use roads?

I'm not sure I understand. VED is based on g/km of CO2 emissions, if you are below a certain threshold you don't pay VED. Therefore you don't pay VED for a bike, in the same way that you don't pay VED for a Fiat 500 Twinair or a Toyota Prius.

 

[krisby]

That depends, I've got a mate that is a cyclist, also a heavy smoker, I don't think he would be zero emissions.

 

[Pacamack]

I've also cycled the day after a curry and that doesn't really qualify either! However, the principle still stands and should hopefully put that argument from the anti-cyclist league to bed.

I agree there are lots of prats on bikes, and they infuriate me as a cyclist just as much as everyone else, but there are an equally large number of prats in cars.

 

[KillerHERTZ]

I agree there are lots of prats on bikes, and they infuriate me as a cyclist just as much as everyone else, but there are an equally large number of prats in cars.

The difference is, prats on bikes arent likely to kill you, prats in vehicles however are.

 

[markjay]

That depends, I've got a mate that is a cyclist, also a heavy smoker, I don't think he would be zero emissions.

OK, let's not go into curry night jokes