Do these wheels/tyres fit?? Read this first! Offset/fitment answers within..

[slippy]

Not got a clue what a 14mm radius friction surface is but I`ll take your word for it.
The tyres I was considering were Federal SS595, because of the big rim protector (& nice tread pattern). I have these on my Porsche 944 They seem nice & grippy without being too expensive.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Murray Systems - Got any views on Fulda Excelero tyres?

Never considered Fulda before, but Kleemann are doing a deal on them at the moment supplied with their TS7 rims.

 

[Chris Murray]

heya
I don't really know much about tyre comparisons!
For some reason, I like Fulda but I don't recall why! Perhaps something to do with them being German and supported by a main brand??? Our current tyre wholesaler don't really do them so I haven't supplied any for a few years now.

this site is pretty good: www.tyretest.com

If you're considering a TS7 package, I'll work something friendly out with whichever tyres you choose

 

[slippy]

Murray Systems -
Hi, My tyres have arrived, well the front ones have anyway (Federal SS595) 225/45 x 17 The wheels fit ok without fouling anything although only by a few mm. Is this ok?
Nuts?? The ones I have seem to fit ok but they have to be screwed in all the way to their usable limit. Is this why you said I may need to replace them? If so how much for some new ones please & If I order tonight / in the morning will I get them Saturday??

Thanks for your help
Stuart

 

[Chris Murray]

Yep, you'll need new bolts Check you haven't messed up your hubs by trying to bolt an unthreaded bolt into a threaded hub.
I can do Saturday Special Delivery @£12

 

[slippy]

OOoops, Might have done that already........bugg*r!
How much are the bolts? Do I just give you a buzz in the morning?

 

[Chris Murray]

Bolts are £40 for 20 or..
£62 for 16 bolts and 4 locking bolts.
More info here (Bolt pack 4 or 4L): http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/option/bolt_packs
Call whenever you like after 9am.

 

[slippy]

Ordered them this morning with special delivery for Sat am. Just hope I havnt knackered my hubs now. If I have done some damage, can it be repaired or will it mean a new hub??

 

[Dieselman]

If the threads in the hub are still intact then you haven't damaged them.

Chris meant that you might have tried to really roast the bolts up tight so may have wound the shanked part of the bolt into the threads in the hubs.

You will require bolts with longer thread section and a 14mm seat where it interfaces with the wheel.
Older wheels are 12mm seat, newer ones 14mm seat.

 

[television]

If the threads in the hub are still intact then you haven't damaged them.

Chris meant that you might have tried to really roast the bolts up tight so may have wound the shanked part of the bolt into the threads in the hubs.

You will require bolts with longer thread section and a 14mm seat where it interfaces with the wheel.
Older wheels are 12mm seat, newer ones 14mm seat.

I think that the damage is when the bolt is too long, and in the rear they can get caught up in the parking brake, normally best to make sure that you have between 14mm to 18mm max sticking out of the rear of the wheel when you place the bolt in the hole

 

[slippy]

Thanks Dieselman & television, I have ordered the bolts Murray Systems (Chris??) recommends but now Im even more concerned as I didnt think about the rear bolts fouling the handbrake workings inside the hub, The original bolts do seem to stick through the new wheels more than the old wheels, hench more of the bolt inside the hub??
If Ive damaged the front hub, is it repairable?

 

[television]

Thanks Dieselman & television, I have ordered the bolts Murray Systems (Chris??) recommends but now Im even more concerned as I didnt think about the rear bolts fouling the handbrake workings inside the hub, The original bolts do seem to stick through the new wheels more than the old wheels, hench more of the bolt inside the hub??
If Ive damaged the front hub, is it repairable?

You cant do any harm on the front as there is nothing inside then so do not worry

 

[Dieselman]

The clearance isn't what Chris meant. It's if the threads are dmaged due to winding in the straight shank.

I doubt you've damaged them, but when you change the wheels just have a look at eh threads, if they look Ok then they will be Ok.

 

[television]

The clearance isn't what Chris meant. It's if the threads are dmaged due to winding in the straight shank.

I doubt you've damaged them, but when you change the wheels just have a look at eh threads, if they look Ok then they will be Ok.

There are many applications in engineering where bolts are used in that way and I have never seen any damage done to the thread, that would be near impossible

 

[slippy]

Thanks chaps, I hope all is well. I`ll report back tomorrow when the bolts arrive & post a pic if I not broke owt!

 

[slippy]

Hey, guess what I learned this morning?? If you try to use the original bolts you knacker something up!!
The new bolts arrived this morning at 09:15 as promised by Murray Systems ( fantastic service / advice by the way, thank you very much! )
They are shorter so no worries about it interfering with the handbrake workings but............I cant remove one of the original bolts on the front, hopefully Ive only damaged the threads on the bolt & not the hub. Its just spinning round, any ideas how I can remove it please?

Cheers
slippy the thick git!!

 

[Dieselman]

Its just spinning round, any ideas how I can remove it please?

Oops.....!!

undo all the other bolts then pull hard on the wheel at a point furthest from the bolt in question, whilst undoing the bolt.

Hopefully this will cause the thread to bite and undo.

This is what Chris was talking about, hopefully it's the bolt thread damaged, not the hub.

Good luck.

 

[slippy]

Thanks Dieselman, I tried that this morning but couldnt manage it alone & have no friends lol.
I`ll go to work in it one day next week to see if our fitter can do it.

 

[television]

Thanks Dieselman, I tried that this morning but couldnt manage it alone & have no friends lol.
I`ll go to work in it one day next week to see if our fitter can do it.

I wonder if I can explain this any better.
Take out the other bolts, turn the wheel so that the stuck bolt is at the bottom, the pull the top of the wheel outwards as hard as you can outwards whilst rotating the stuck bolt.

 

[slippy]

Hi Malcolm,
Thanks, I get what he was trying to say I just couldnt manage it on my own, dodgy back & all that. I might try again in the morning if its not raining & I can get one of my sons out of bed before it gets dark!

Im very happy with the result though - http://www.flickr.com/photos/22312488@N07/2204153732/