The EV fact thread

[BTB 500]

If course you're right!

My first engine was in fact a Diesel.

The Cox .20 came later

Mind, that was over 50 years ago.....

Similar for me, a DC Merlin 0.75 cc in 1972 or 1973. Followed by a Cox PeeWee .020, and much later on a pair of TD .020s (and a TD .010). I still have two 0.55cc diesels now (r/c ones - throttled and silenced)
However I have only flown electric for the last 23 years.

 

[Mactech]

Yes, it's true, those Teslerati will do anything to keep their Tesla S running. It's that pride in ownership thing.

"I know the car is good, it's just the battery that needs a refurb pack. It's a stylish car that hasn't dated. Let's get it past 300k miles ..."

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It's the poor old Mercedes goes off to the Breakers.

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My bother in law has an 8 year old Tesla S. Last year the battery was replaced under warranty by Tesla at no cost to him.
Given that the new battery is of a much later generation, he is hoping for at least another 8 years of trouble free EV motoring.
My BMW has a warranty on the battery until the last month of 2028. My average turn over of cars is three years, so I doubt I will be troubling the BMW warranty department....but then I'm not planning on having trouble of any kind with the car.

 

[markjay]

...However I have only flown electric for the last 23 years.

Hypocrite!

 

[markjay]

My bother in law has an 8 year old Tesla S. Last year the battery was replaced under warranty by Tesla at no cost to him.
Given that the new battery is of a much later generation, he is hoping for at least another 8 years of trouble free EV motoring.
My BMW has a warranty on the battery until the last month of 2028. My average turn over of cars is three years, so I doubt I will be troubling the BMW warranty department....but then I'm not planning on having trouble of any kind with the car.

My IONIQ 5 came with an 8 year warranty for the battery.... but given that it's on a 4 year lease, the issue is academic for me

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

My bother in law has an 8 year old Tesla S. Last year the battery was replaced under warranty by Tesla at no cost to him.
Given that the new battery is of a much later generation, he is hoping for at least another 8 years of trouble free EV motoring.
My BMW has a warranty on the battery until the last month of 2028. My average turn over of cars is three years, so I doubt I will be troubling the BMW warranty department....but then I'm not planning on having trouble of any kind with the car.

And you won't be putting that much mileage, or supercharger stress, on your wee I3.

What kind of mileage did he put on his "S" before those batteries gave up the ghost? Does he think Supercharger stress might have been a problem for his?

What's his view on the reliability of the facelift 2017 generation Tesla S batteries? ("Asking for a friend")

 

[markjay]

Similar for me, a DC Merlin 0.75 cc in 1972 or 1973. Followed by a Cox PeeWee .020, and much later on a pair of TD .020s (and a TD .010). I still have two 0.55cc diesels now (r/c ones - throttled and silenced)
However I have only flown electric for the last 23 years.

Trying to remember now....

I believe that I initially had a DC Spitfire 1cc Diesel Engine, then a Cox Pee Wee 0.2cc...

The Diesel engine went into a Combat model that crashed in its maiden flight, while the Cox engine was destined for a Cesna 152 balsa wood scale model that was completed but never flew with the engine (but it did with a rubber band!). No radio, it was meant to go in circles then land.

Clearly, I never progressed beyond novice!

 

[BTB 500]

Trying to remember now....

I believe that I initially had a DC Spitfire 1cc Diesel Engine, then a Cox Pee Wee 0.2cc...

The Diesel engine went into a Combat model that crashed in its maiden flight, while the Cox engine was destined for a Cesna 152 balsa wood scale model that was completed but never flew with the engine (but it did with a rubber band!). No radio, it was meant to go in circles then land.

Clearly, I never progressed beyond novice!

Glow engines are nearly always measured in cubic inches. The PeeWee 020 is 0.020 CI, or 0.33 cc.

I had a DC Sabre, which was 1.5 cc. It flew my first radio-controlled aircraft in 1975 ... I did free flight before that.

Vaguely back on topic, I've been flying with Lithium Ion batteries since 2002. Early ones were extremely expensive, so I still used NiCd and then NiMH packs in bigger planes for a good few years after that. In 2002 I paid around £900 for a charger that could handle Li cells as well as NiCd and NIMH!

 

[Mactech]

And you won't be putting that much mileage, or supercharger stress, on your wee I3.

What kind of mileage did he put on his "S" before those batteries gave up the ghost? Does he think Supercharger stress might have been a problem for his?

What's his view on the reliability of the facelift 2017 generation Tesla S batteries? ("Asking for a friend")

The car was 7 years and 50k miles old when it got new a new battery. It had never been home charged until last year, so on the Tesla network until then.
Too soon to have any real comment on the new battery, except to same the range is back to 'as new'

 

[clk320x]

What's his view on the reliability of the facelift 2017 generation Tesla S batteries?

2017 had the common issues ironed out that plagued the first gen 85 packs (which were on the whole still very good).

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

The car was 7 years and 50k miles old when it got new a new battery. It had never been home charged until last year, so on the Tesla network until then.
Too soon to have any real comment on the new battery, except to same the range is back to 'as new'

Apologies for yet another question about your brother’s Tesla! What were the symptoms that led to the replacement of the battery?

 

[PrivateHireGuy]

Yes, the time it takes to refuel an EV can be very tedious. Now I have my Meross smart plug, I've got to navigate all the way to the app on my phone and tap a button. Whenever the sun comes out I can turn on the charger.
Takes almost 4 seconds, but I hope to reduce that as I become use to it. The car sits happily in the garage with it's power cord plugged in, ready to go whenever I want

Get Siri or Hey Google involved and save yourself the hassle of even needing your phone.

 

[Trickythemerc]

It would have been parafin not petrol. I used to brew my own diesel fuels and add a drop of amyl nitrate for better combustion, also purchased from the local chemist without question. I thought the small Cox motors were glow engines.

 

[BTB 500]

I thought the small Cox motors were glow engines.

They were. You could (possibly still can) get aftermarket diesel heads to convert them, but the crankshafts / conrods weren't really designed for the extra loads involved.

 

[Mactech]

Apologies for yet another question about your brother’s Tesla! What were the symptoms that led to the replacement of the battery?

I believe it was a continuing reduction in range.

 

[ALFAitalia]

All your Tesla range problems solved!.....take it seriously or not.....but this guy has proper engineering skills.

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[Bellow]

The car was 7 years and 50k miles old when it got new a new battery.

Let's get it past 300k miles ..."

Yeah, right.

 

[ALFAitalia]

• DVSA records show over 700 UK Tesla cars that have clocked over 100k miles
• Some 38 Teslas with over 200k miles and 3 that have surpassed 300k miles

And then there is this one......a bit like Triggers broom....but even so its done a lot of work.

This Tesla Model S has 1.2 million miles and counting

Today's AM Drive is about the highest-mileage Tesla in the world and Fiat's intention to build a Panda EV in Serbia.

uk.motor1.com

 

[Mactech]

• DVSA records show over 700 UK Tesla cars that have clocked over 100k miles
• Some 38 Teslas with over 200k miles and 3 that have surpassed 300k miles

And then there is this one......a bit like Triggers broom....but even so its done a lot of work.

This Tesla Model S has 1.2 million miles and counting

Today's AM Drive is about the highest-mileage Tesla in the world and Fiat's intention to build a Panda EV in Serbia.

uk.motor1.com

They certainly do the miles.....provided you don't mind pausing for:

Three Battery Packs and 13 Motors Replaced.

 

[ALFAitalia]

That only a battery every 400,000 miles or so....seems reasonable....a motor every 100k?....less so. But apparently the later ones are different and are good for 300k plus.

 

[Dryce]

That only a battery every 400,000 miles or so....seems reasonable....a motor every 100k?....less so. But apparently the later ones are different and are good for 300k plus.

I think 400,000 for battery is impressive.

And 100K for a motor - question is how much work/cost in replacing one - presumably (hopefully) a lot less than swapping an engine or undertaking major work on a petrol or diesel car.